XR650R electricity

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by themansfield, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. sintax

    sintax Been here awhile

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    ok, so thats the one where you have to manually charge your battery to run the DSK and the current headlamp runs off AC.

    How comfortable are you with wiring and general electrical theory? IF you are comfortable rewiring the bike i'd suggest the following...

    picking up a DC R/R, the baja designs unit is nice. You can run your power from the stator into that, you'll also want to pick up another battery pack, or reuse your current, and move it under the seat if you can fit it. You should be able to tie your existing DSK into the new system without much trouble. Just read this thread from start to finish a couple of times, honestly it'll take you a few min, but its well worth it.
  2. BillyD

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    Any particular reason the grip heaters ground goes to the floated AC ground even though they are fed by DC positive?
  3. RideFreak

    RideFreak Torque Junkie

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    Good catch! That was a mistake in the drawing. They can be run off ether one (AC or DC) but the ground is shown incorrectly for it to be fed from the DC.
  4. cognugget

    cognugget n00b

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    Very comfortable, just looking for the best proven option. So If I am to pick up the baja designs rectifier/regulator will I still need the oem regulator?
  5. sintax

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    It depends on what your plans are. The only reason you would need the stock AC regulator would be if you were going to run a rewound stator and were going to run an AC and DC circuit.

    If you just plan on having 1 DC circuit, you wont need it.

    My bike when I bought it, had been converted to DC only. I had Baja Designs rewind the stator. I kept the DC loop as is, and added the AC regulator back, and run the headlight off of that in an isolated AC loop.
  6. cognugget

    cognugget n00b

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    I will run all DC. Everything is going to be LED except the stock tail light. :evil I will be buying the unwired baja designs regulator rectifier for my set.
  7. Woundflatout

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    Arrrgh! WTF did I do? My bike had a key switch wired in I snipped it off and now none of my lights work.

    Now I have this rats nest to work through.

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  8. lstzephyr

    lstzephyr Solo con rambo

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    Option 1: Put the key switch back the way it was. Leave it alone.

    Option 2: Put the key switch back. Start checking and chasing connections to figure out where everything goes.

    Option 3: Figure out what isn't connected.

    Option 4: Make a new harness.:lol3

    That is the way I see it. I bet they ran the power to the headlight through the key switch. I would start at the key wiring and see what is powered up while kicking/running and then hook it to the lights. It is usually easier to change things while they are working so I would most likely do number 2. Good luck.
  9. Woundflatout

    Woundflatout Been here awhile

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    I thought about what was disconnected, and I took a chance at putting together 2 wires that were dangling...one was red which is universal for power and one was black...it worked and I didn't even fry my wiring!

    Thanks for the help!

    Cheers,

    Jason
  10. Gunga Galunga

    Gunga Galunga Been here awhile

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    Well, I finally got my own BRP. Thanks Lex for the wiring diagram. UPS has been busy making deliveries so we'll see how this electrical shakes out. Thanks to Mike @ Ricky Stator and Paul @ HDB for their help.
  11. TunaGod06

    TunaGod06 n00b

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    Good Evening,

    I'm wrapping up converting an XR650R to street trim. I originally purchased one of the BD battery packs, but it couldn't run the brake lights and ignition switch/relay more than 10 seconds without dying. I upgraded to one of the 1.3ah SLA batteries recommended in this thread.

    I'm planning on installing an RFID ignition switch and have that part working, but I'm worried about draining the battery having it run the ignition system, lights, etc before I can get the bike started.

    My question is, can I wire in a relay from the RR to switch on the brake lights, radiator fan, trailtech, etc once the bike is running? Do you guys see any issues with hooking things up this way?

    Thanks!

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  12. baachor

    baachor Adventurer

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    Hello,

    just got me new XR650R 2001 plated (CALIFORNIA). I'm on post #115 so far. Didn't find answer yet.

    My bike has some kind of basic street legal kit on it. It even doesn't have a battery,horn (because it wouldn't have enough juice? :D).

    It got some tiny flashers by front light. Previous owner put some "hard to be seen on streets" rear blinkers so close to exhaust that they burned on my way home from him :rofl

    So I put newer super bright LEDs. But they won't flash now. So reading here found out and ordered TUSK flusher.And horn BD.

    What is the cheapest way to get it to work? As I've read here that bikes in here in California has to be able have a light on for 20 min with engine turned off? wow

    Can't afford BD rewired stator (yet).

    Can anyone tell me (from pictures) what are my options?

    Thank You

    (you can see burnt blinker by exhaust,I changed it and bigger tank too)

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  13. crypto666

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    Yes, I was going to do the same thing for the same reason.
    Running a split stator ac/dc. I was going to use the ac side to power an AC relay to switch the battery on an off. So when it runs the batt is in the circuit, when its off the battery is out of the circuit.
  14. crypto666

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    You should be fine once you install a LED flasher, but the lights will flicker at idle.

  15. oldxr

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    Did the turn signal work on this bike?It sounds like the PO never even had direct current on this bike.You need dc for turn signals+ horn or any led lights.The stock stator will make dc if connected to a regulator/rectifier assembly.In stock trim everything on a xrr is a/c.The beauty of the system is that the ignition is a completely separate circuit and is not dependant on the battery(if added).You could run a rectifier/regulator in parallel with the headlight to get dc and it will charge a battery but not fast.I have all led lights on my xrr + radiator fan and only need 100 watts .ther is a web site called the pig pen that has an article about winding yout own stator.
  16. baachor

    baachor Adventurer

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    Hopefully crypto666

    Yes,all blinkers (LED,flash) worked before. I put new ones in back (brighter ones) and it just lid up tiny bit,no flashing. Hopefully TUSK flasher will fix that. And probably because of not enough "juice" there is no HORN :eek1

    I was looking at that rewinding article,it is bit old (2003) not sure if I can find same parts. Might do it thou.

    That sounds great,all from 100watts? Where do I find out how to do it. I'm not electrician but I can learn easily :lol3
    I don't even know what all those "things" are under the seat. Assuming one is the regulator. Totally noob here.
    The manual should be here tomorrow,I guess I can find some parts names in there :clap
    I love learning about this bike :ear

    Thank You Advriders for your advice :D
  17. oldxr

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    Stock stator is supposed to be only 35 watts.The stator only puts out a/c current.On the original xrr wiring everything was a/c current-no need for d/c.There might be some dual sport kits that can run a/c turn signals but i have not heard of this.Any LED lights need d/c.Gps units need d/c.My xrr was not converted by me.I have a big ball of connectors behind my headlight.I dont like that. If I were to do this over everything would be run under the seat and all connectors would be there.Everybodies xrr's end up being almost a custom built bike.
  18. crypto666

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    Well, the regulator does not look like a stock reg, and more like a regulator/rectifier. So I am assuming you have a dc system already.

    If you don't have one, buy yourself a DMM (digital multi meter) so you can check voltage and such. Beware however, that without a battery or any other kind of buffering in the system, you may get some bizarro readings.

    Gobrushless.com has good mag wire. You want good mag wire, not ok mag wire (its the coating thats important).
  19. baachor

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    oldxr,
    I hear yea. When I went to look for bikes I saw 5 bikes with totally DIFFERENT "custom built" electricity :huh
    One of them looked like yours,lots of cables. I was about to get that one (already set up for GPS,battery....) but overall bike looked beaten up. So I choose the one I have,almost pure stock an nice condition. But electric too basic :huh

    Crypto666,
    looking at Manual (learning part's names) looks like that this bike actually has original A/C regulator :eek1

    I don't get it why blinkers won't work now.

    Anyhow. How can I fix it? Rectifier and battery from BD? Anyone can help me how to wire it up? Also wire horn in it too.
    Thanks

    added: thanx for link on wire, I might do it soon by myself ;) how many did you use? I just saw they have bullet connectors that someone here is using...cool link
  20. Sean-0

    Sean-0 straya carnt

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    mine was a mess of wires till I cleaned it up
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