XR650R Thread!

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by JustinT, Nov 24, 2008.

  1. Capt. Egregious

    Capt. Egregious Been here awhile

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    I'm sure this question has been asked before. What aftermarket seats are you guys using? What makes it great and what would you change?
  2. FlyGuy

    FlyGuy MachineHead

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    That clutch looks good
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    What type of oil are you running ?
    A non Moly type oil is needed
    and if that's not the case and you are running the correct oil then check the clutch stack height, when properly set up one extra steel added to the pack will cause the last fiber to run off the edge of the basket. if not add a extra steel plate and see if you can adjust the clutch
    also a heavier spring is recommended (4 of)
    I run the heavier springs and a extra steel plate in one bike, and in another bike only the springs the extra steel wont allow me to adjust the clutch.
    That grove is not the cause of your problem it looks like a foreign object may have been the cause? it might be normal?
  3. Noprogram

    Noprogram High Plains Drifter

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    Cold day down under so thought I'd put up some pics of the BRP. I've had this bike for awhile and was setting it up to be my adventure bike for an Australian tour but had some minor problems with earthquakes destroying our city so it was put on hold for a year to let the....ahem.....dust settle so to speak.

    This is Australasian version 650R which has lights and switch gear for road compliance. Setup with Protapers, Barkbusters, Moose Racing plate, Givi screen, Ram GPS mount, Pro Moto Billet rack and the 25L Safari tank. Currently rigged with the original Giant Loop but I also have a Denali rack with the subframe reinforcement to be used with Andy Strapz expedition panniers and a Wolfman expedition roll bag. Although the original intention was to try and do an 'alpine style' approach (cut your tooth brush in half etc) with the bike setup so it would still handle in sand etc and the later was getting too heavy in rear IMO. Anyway, included a few pics of a ride through the upper South Island high country recently. The pig's such a great bike to ride out there.

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  4. mazman808

    mazman808 Been here awhile

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    Ive been using the Fuchs comp4 oil in it for a while, then recently tried the castrol power1 racing and after 2 rides thats when i noticed the slipping.

    I checked the measurement of all my fibers and steel plates. found the specs that say 3mm for fibers and 0.30mm for steel, 2.69mm for the smaller fiber plate and mine come up within specs(a bit thicker then what those numbers say as im guessing those number are minimum specs).

    What i find odd is that it only slipped for my one session, which goes for about 15min, after that all other sessions it was perfect.
  5. Craiger

    Craiger Been here awhile

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    Capt. Egregious, I have a XPC suede seat and I still am VERY HAPPY with it. The seat has gotten even more comfortable with time. Below is a link to my review of the seat a short time after I received it. 200 plus mile days are comfortable on the seat and I figure roughly I have 6000 miles on the seat. IMHO it was money well spent...

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14114166&postcount=5442
  6. woodsxr

    woodsxr Been here awhile

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    That seat looks pretty comfy.
    I will be looking for a seat pretty soon and may have to look at XPC.
  7. gofargogo

    gofargogo Lurker, mostly

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    Renazco. I couldn't be happier with it. I had the stock seat on it before, and I'd get uncomfortable after 20 minutes. With the Renazco seat I have ridden for hours without any issue. It is the best mod I've done.
  8. gofargogo

    gofargogo Lurker, mostly

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    Here's how I celebrated Cinco de Mayo.

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  9. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    Did you bother checking what I mentioned? :ear
  10. XRx

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    Yes, if your clutch basket looks like Flyguy's avatar, it will greatly degrade the clutch's ability to grab. If the basket is worn and If you're cheap and careful, you can repair a worn basket pretty good with a grinding wheel. I've done it with a right angle grinder with good results, better yet was did it on my dad's table saw with a grinding or cutting wheel, when I was a kid.

    Though those Hinson baskets look real nice if you're into spending a few bucks on your bike.
  11. seabee1

    seabee1 we build, we fight

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    Let me say first that I don't fully understand how clutches and baskets work, so let me ask you a stupid question. If a clutch basket is worn, meaning material removed, how can you fix it with a grinding wheel, or even more material removed? :huh
  12. XRx

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    This one is quite worn. See the teeth where the plates wore in. Now the plates want to ride in the valleys, restrictian their axial movement to engage and disengage, as they actually have to move apart and together axially.

    So assuming you are very careful, you can grind away to a flat surface again with pretty good results I've found. But keep in mind you want the surfaces as flat, parallel, and consistent material removal off each row, as accurately is you possible can. Which is why the table saw was better than the angle grinder, more consistent material removal
  13. seabee1

    seabee1 we build, we fight

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    Ok, so it doesn't really matter if they can rotate a bit side to side, as long as they can slide up and down? relative to the orientation of your pic.
  14. SpeedoJosh

    SpeedoJosh Been here awhile

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    So I have a 250r for the really tight stuff, and the 650r for trips and all that stuff. Is there room for a 400r in there also, or is it to similar to the 650 to get?

    Anyone own, or owned both or all three at the same time?
  15. XRx

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    Exactly. Although there are other considerations too. Like if the sliding surfaces from the factory had the sliding surfaces finished special to reduce friction, you wouldn't have that. And if you took too much material off, eventually full power might bend the fingers if they get too thin to transer the power.
  16. bamfslap

    bamfslap Been here awhile

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    Do you mean the XR400R? I have heard it feels close to the 650R in handling/weight from some people, but to others every pound matters and the 650R has some pounds on it. Personally wouldn't bother with the CRF450R unless you do MX and like doing engine work.

    I think your setup is pretty balanced.
  17. SpeedoJosh

    SpeedoJosh Been here awhile

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    Yea, sorry, the XR400, not 450.
  18. RideFreak

    RideFreak Torque Junkie

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    I have a XR400R also, my buddy has an XR250R, the 250R makes a decent (but dated) ST machine, it's light, has a 6sp and is a simple aircooled mount. He rides some serious knarl on it, it's a cheap ST bike that will do what you need it to but you won't win any HP contests with it. The 400R is a good machine, reliable, does everything ok also but it's also very dated compared to whats out there now, it does everything decently and better then most if not all of the Jap enduros that are out there now but the newer (off road only) bikes are going to perform noticably better. Similar to the the niche you fine the XR250R in. I think the 650R has retained it's appeal much longer because there's not allot of off-road focus from the factories in the 650cc range so there's only 1 decent alternative to the XRs HP and off-road ability and it's almost $11K :cry

    The smaller XR400 is not that way, it's in amoungst some very stiff competition from the orange camp. I use it as my loaner bike for buddies that come out to visit, not knocking the XR400, it's been a great machine that's never let me down but it'd never be my primary (smaller) bike, it's a little too heavy and underpowered for my tastes. I'd choose something different for that size and it'd probably be orange just because I think the japs have lost their focus or don't really care about the serious DS non-mx market, their's is probably a sales driven decision.
  19. Capt. Egregious

    Capt. Egregious Been here awhile

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    Great looking seat and XRR. I think I will take Guts seat off the list and put XPC at the top. Looking at the Renazco also. Thank you for the info. What foam did you go with? Is suede the strongest/toughest?
  20. Wadester

    Wadester Rides a dirty bike

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    I'm surprised no one brought up the Seat Concepts foam/cover kit. Hard to beat for $160 - but you do have to use your existing pan and staple it together. (or pay SC - or an upholstery shop to do it for you). Very good quality materials, and they can tailor the foam density to your weight if you're near the ends of the 160-250 lb range.
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    http://seatconcepts.com/products#ecwid:category=1671356&mode=product&product=7268061