XR650R's Fate and Replacement?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by deminimis, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. kjazz

    kjazz Been here awhile

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    I dont wanna let go!!!!!!!! mostly cuz I have been left high and dry when a battery went tits up unexpectedly!!! (like you ever really expect it!)

    I hear you. I guess I could always tap into a riding buddy's battery....now I gotta carry jumper cables!! oy vey.
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  2. deminimis

    deminimis I Eat Glue

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    I'd love to get rid on the kick start on my Beta (because its on the wrong side).

    Last year in Moab temps, it was such a drag kicking the Pig to life whenever we pulled over to catch our breath (riding off-road -bike was too hot to leave running). I mean, I freak'n dreaded it (we were often exhausted). The magic button, well, crap, its better than sex. There, I said it.
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  3. Off the grid

    Off the grid Seeker of the Unf

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    +1. Other than being the total wrong bike for the NE where I ride, this was the main reason I sold mine.

    I mean the starting "technique" is nearly 2 pages long!

    How do I start my 450?

    *push button*
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  4. Cmayer31

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    Wow, a 2 year old thread bumped up to bring on the XRR bashers. Sweet.

    Honda never meant for the XRR to be a dual sport, so they won't replace it with a dual sport. They replaced it with the CRF. If you like the XRR and want its replacement then buy the CRF and make it street legal, the same as had to be done to the old XRR. It's lighter and has a magic button.

    If you wan't Honda's dual sport buy the XRL, same as it was way back when and same now. They're not interested in making a new dual sport as they're still selling the XRL for a hell of a margin and the R&D isn't worth making a new one.

    Sadly, Honda doesn't care to make a higher performance light weight dual sport, so you'll have to move on.

    BMW
    KTM
    Husqvarna
    Beta
    ....and more.

    Choose a color and ride :D
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    Off the grid Seeker of the Unf

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    If "pointing out serious flaws based on personal experience" makes me an XRR "basher" than so be it.

    Brand loyalty is a funny thing to observe. With XRR riders it's like a mob of angry Muslims trying to decapitate a cartoonist who drew a picture of Mohamed. :lol3
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  6. deminimis

    deminimis I Eat Glue

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    Oh crap, here it comes....[​IMG]
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    Yeah wait for it....them XRR riders are like a pack of wild dogs. :lol3
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  8. deminimis

    deminimis I Eat Glue

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    I miss my Pig for a couple of reasons (maintenance, for one). However, I miss it most because now all of the Pink Floyd (and a Primus) references I used don't translate to KTM ownership. Probably time to change my avitar and location.

    For old times: "If you've studied your Floyd carefully you'd know that pigs can fly"
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  9. kjazz

    kjazz Been here awhile

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    Well so far, I'm still diggin my XRR....a lot! The starting procedure for me is very simple....one slow kick to determine if I'm top or bottom DC. If so, pull the comp rel kick three times and then kick for real. I'm always going real quickly with only one and sometimes 2 real kicks. BUT.....BUT.....a magic button is even better no doubt. The bike runs hot so idling while waiting on the buddies to show up is not a good option. Therefore I shut down quite often. I'd hoped that Jet-Hot'ing the pipes and putting Evans in the cooler would help the subject, but maybe not. The jury it would seem is still out on that.

    I'm intrigued by the KTM 690R and the Husky TE630. But those are twice the $$. I've got the $$, but I also have a keen buyer's remorse about spending that much for a slight upgrade....overall (essentially just the button).

    I think I'll just keep the XRR and try to work out any details that aren't optimal.
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  10. Cmayer31

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    What serious flaws?

    Kick start? Hundreds of thousands of people learned how to kick start bikes and rode them for decades before a magic start. Lack of E-start is not really a flaw, just a luxury that is indeed missing. I'm sorry you couldn't start the BRP, maybe the bike was out of whack, or you just had issues with it.

    Weight? Sure it's heavy, but it's lighter than many other bikes as well.

    Funny thing about brand loyalty...I have none.

    The following are currently in my garage:

    2007 Yamaha FZ6 - I love it

    2001 KTM 400 EXC bored to 450 - CA plated. Great bike, not a fan of the maintenance schedule, but the bike is a blast and has the magic button.

    2000 Honda XRR - CA plated. Great bike, ridden hard, put away dirty. Starts every time :rofl

    1999 Yamaha WR400R - CA plated. Talk about a riot, light weight set up like a MX bike, and always puts a smile on my face.

    I'm not brand loyal and I'm very open minded with bikes. Re-read my post in this thread, I stated quite simply that the XRR will not have a replacement and other brands stepped up to the plate to make better bikes.
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  11. XTwarrior

    XTwarrior My bike is older than me

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    If anyone is having a complaint about kickstarting any bike, you haven't owned an XT550 with auto-decomp. Nothing like putting all of your weight on the kicker, having it go halfway down then catching putting all the strain on one knee.... tons of fun :rofl

    I don't own an XRR but I want one. Looking around for a street tard project/bike and it really seems the XRR is the best choice for us less than rich folk who still want good HP and torque in a relatively lightweight bike. I've trail ridden with my XT which is the same wet weight as the XRR and had no issues, God forbid you have to use some muscle on occassion :evil
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  12. kjazz

    kjazz Been here awhile

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    Hey Deminimis,

    I met the guy that did most of Pink Floyd's album art a couple of months ago in Seal Beach CA. He lives across the street from a friend of mine. He has a bunch of the original artwork hanging in his house for PF, The Eagles and others. Really cool stuff. Back in the day when you had to airbrush for real to make it in that field.
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  13. deminimis

    deminimis I Eat Glue

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    I can't even write legibly, so I'm always impressed with someone that can paint. That must have been some cool stuff to see.

    Hey XTW, I had a XT500 back in high school. Of my found former bike memories, that is one of my fondest. I loved that bike. I crashed it a lot (well, I crash everything a lot still), but loved it. You could go down, wipe yourself off, and be on your way and the bike looked none the worse for wear.
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  14. Zapp22

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    ah, maybe not. I loved my XRR, but I like the DR better. Which is why I sold the XRR. For about the same money, you get a lot more versatile machine that is more of an "ADV" bike out of the box.
    But I still have a great admiration for the mighty BRP.
    If Honda were on their game, they'd...... oh never mind

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  15. XTwarrior

    XTwarrior My bike is older than me

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    Ya, I love this bike but I converted it to a street tard after all of our local trails got shut down :cry I used to have hill climbs, tight technical and rocky terrain to ride on but thanks to local farmland being developed it is no more.

    As a street tard it does ok but spaghetti forks and general age are rearing their ugly heads.
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  16. deminimis

    deminimis I Eat Glue

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    Well folks, I'm off to get a new chain for my trials bike (none you have kicked started a bike until you've kick started a 11:4-1 smoker with the kick start on the left side :rofl). Clearly Honda did not build a replacement and that's pretty much that. I think its time for this old thread be allowed to return to its blissful slumber.

    [​IMG]
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  17. Garthe

    Garthe ROCKS ARE YOUR FRIENDS...

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    Cmayer31, one of the best features of this web site it the IGNORE button. :thumb OTG is one of two Inmates that I use it on. VERY bitter person who has NOTHING better to do that chime in on EVERY XRR tread to spread his poison...Whatever the BIG RED PIG did to him, it must of HURT. :loco

    Now where were we...






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  18. kjazz

    kjazz Been here awhile

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    long live the pig.
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  19. Kiko

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    Does anyone out there make a 650 water cooled dirt bike that can be plated?

    Dual sported?

    Weighs under 175 lbs?

    Still get around 48 hp easily uncorked?

    And did I mention have tons of torque?

    Japanese reliability and low maintenance schedule?

    Large aftermarket parts availabilty?

    Won every Baja race it ever entered?

    People who complain about the kick start or the weight of the XR650R have far too much time on their hands.
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  20. XTwarrior

    XTwarrior My bike is older than me

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    *cough* 275 lbs. *cough*

    But yes, exactly. Well said.