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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by onaXR, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    Does anyone have a slick way to snug up the steering stem to the proper preload setting of 1.1-1.6 kg(2.4-3.5flbs)? I need to snug it down so I can continue to put my 04 back together. I can probably wing it but if I can get it presice then so much the better.


    On another note, I remember reading (here?) someone mentioned using PVC pipe as a steering stem bearing driver instead of buying some over priced tool.
    I just got finished changing steering stem bearings. I used a hammer and chisel to remove the lower bearing like these guys did.

    http://www.garagenight.tv/ep-5-replacing-steering-head-bearings/

    Piece of cake!

    I used an old Carlisle canoe paddle blade I found at work to drive the lower bearing into position! A perfect(snug) fit around the stem and the same diameter as the inner race(so it wasn't bending the bearing cage).

    Took the stem/lower Triple Clamp out of the freezer, placed the grease seal and bearing on the stem and placed the paddle blade onto the stem,, against the bearing. Turned the whole thing upside down and about ten easy taps later, on a piece of wood on the bottom of the stem and the bearing was home!
    I didn't think to take any pics as I was doing this but this is what I'm talking about...

    The paddle blade shaft...
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    You know what they say about one mans junk! :lol3
  2. XR650L_Dave

    XR650L_Dave Long timer

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    You said 'Shaft', and 'Junk', uh-huh-huh-huh-huh-huh
  3. fritzcoinc

    fritzcoinc Enjoying my last V8

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    You can torque the nut with a stack of adaptors to get to the equvilent inch pounds. You need to fab a socket. What I do is tighten up the nut with channel locks while swinging the triple side to side. Tighten till is very difficult to swing the triple. Then use a large rubber hammer and drive the stem up into the head and then down into the head again while swinging the triple side to side. This is to get absolutely all the slack out of the bearing installation and seat them completely. Back off the nut and tighten with your fingers only till you can feel no slack or play at all. No matter how you do this job there will be the need for a readjustment after some amount of riding, then you will be good to go for a long time. Don't forget grease!
  4. fritzcoinc

    fritzcoinc Enjoying my last V8

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    You want the guide as close to the chain as possible. The broken chain will feed through the gap and fall out.
  5. ecubed

    ecubed LFC Cat

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    Bob, snug the "nut" until it is "all the way in" and "withdraw" till it feels nice and smooth.....:eek1
  6. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    But not in the same sentence thank doG. I'd never hear the end of it! :lol3

    Yeah, I don't know if I have that many adapters! :lol3
    I did know I will have to re-seat them after about 4-500 miles but thanks for the reminder!

    That's how I've done it on my Mtn. bike in the past.
    I read somewhere, somebody said they tighten the nut as tight as possible with leather gloves on...and it usually is pretty darn close to the correct spec. 3'lbs isn't a whole lot.

    This has to be done, or is easier to do correctly, with the forks in the lower triple clamp correct?

    Thanks for the help guys! :freaky
  7. RideAbout

    RideAbout Mentally Retired

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    Yep, riding with those 'tards in your sig line.
  8. Helipilot

    Helipilot Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the replies to my initial post. To clarify, I did not adjust the valves, just noticed the difference in contact while checking for a stuck valve; also, when I did the Dave's Mod this Spring, I totally cleaned the carb and checked the fuel flow. The bike ran like a sewing machine after the mod and produced a better power to the rear wheel. Has been ridden on trails twice since the carb mod although not to say a piece of crud could have floated around and plugged a passageway in the carb.

    I will check the kill switch although the bike produces spark when the plug is removed and grounded while cranking. I will also check the starting fluid trick and flush out the carb again.

    Thanks again for all the ideas and suggestions gents. I appreciate you guys.
  9. Mossy-Back

    Mossy-Back Brown Falcon

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    Thanks! I hope to do some riding over on that side of the state next summer....
  10. mendoteach

    mendoteach Long timer

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    +1. So long is there isn't any notchy-ness, or any free play, it can actually be used as a tuning tool.
  11. XR BADGER

    XR BADGER Adventurer

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    Just an ambiguous update on my pig. This weekend I removed the smog accoutrements with XR s only kit, very easy, and installed a uni filter. Also installed the moose skid plate, looks cool and protective. The pig is running pretty good, feels like it wants to really take off, but falls a little flat. It is also a bit "blubbery" on the bottom. However after I ride for about 30minutes, and then lean on it, it seems to really run pretty solid. It seems to like to stay high in the revs. Anyway, I am waiting for the jets to arrive, been a week from jetsrus, so I can perform Dave's mods. Also, oil change, bike has 478 miles now, certainly needs many more!

    Update, just completed Dave s carb mods, and WOW, ear to ear fn grin...that is how I expected this pig to be. Thanks to everyone for the advice, spot on! Next, the CS sprocket and new acerbics tank.
    Thanks again inmates for the help
  12. NitroRoo

    NitroRoo Been here awhile

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    Already updating my XL350R that I picked up Saturday.

    The seat went from looking like this:
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    To this:
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    Also added some mirrors that I had laying around (I can actually see behind me now!), and I'd say I took 10 years off the bike :D

    At work this morning:
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  13. Sierra Thumper

    Sierra Thumper Been here awhile

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    Yep thats why we suggest doing Dave mods, they make the xrl run the way its supposed to...awesome :clap Don't forget to pull the snorkel off the airbox, and either remove the insert from the stock exhaust or pick up a free-flowing slip-on and you'll really have a nice running L.
    Its a shame how badly these bikes come EPA strangled stock :baldy
  14. fritzcoinc

    fritzcoinc Enjoying my last V8

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    I'll tell you whats wrong with your bike it needs a compression check! If you ride an XR650L, please be careful. Yes, low compression happens and can strike without notice. Be prepaired. Did you know you only have a limited time to check your compression? Did you know that FRITZCOINC can help even if you don't have a license or insurance? And we never charge when you have your compression checked.

    Here's what you need. Sell or trade. SOMEONE take my compression gage, PLEASE! Make offer by PM.

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  15. wbedient

    wbedient MoTard

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    how loud does it get when you take the insert out of the stock pipe?
  16. fritzcoinc

    fritzcoinc Enjoying my last V8

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    It's so loud, that you will need to check your compression. Got gage?
  17. JWhitmore44

    JWhitmore44 pistolero

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    That's looking pretty good. Those 350's are neat bikes.
  18. XR BADGER

    XR BADGER Adventurer

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    For sure Sierra Thumper, the difference between the stock EPA choked bike, and twenty five dollars and a couple hours of time( my first time) is utterly astounding . I did remove the snorkel as well, still contemplating the pipe..I like the stock sound, but get it is a choke collar. Oh, and I also found all the allen (sp) bolts for the carb at the local prep boys, and they are black to boot, so the carb looks cool, and should make subsequent changes easier.
    Thanks fritzonic for the opportunity to get a compression gauge, I should probably get the spark plug wrench for this bike first. Do I need to watch the comp. I run standard gas, and it seems to sound ok, I know that is subjective, so perhaps a comp tester sooner than later would be warranted. On that note, is it ok to run 87 octane? Or should I run a higher octane. I like chevron gas, has always seemed good in the trucks.
    On a side note, just as finished the mods today, a guy in his truck saw me working on the bike and stopped to say hello. Turns out he has an 08' and had done some of the mods and wants to take the pigs out this weekend. Very cool, and looking forward to getting some miles and some dirt on the new pig.
    I need to get some pics up, once I figure it out, I will be sure and post them
    Thanks again, appreciate everyone helping to shorten the learning curve on my pig:freaky
  19. Redclayrider

    Redclayrider Long time gone

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    Wow, wish I could find a compression gauge around here somewhere....wonder where I could get one......

    :rofl that's some funny stuff right there.
  20. atomic frog

    atomic frog pavement ends, YEAH!

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    A while back someone posted and included a link for an XR parts site. I think it was pro cycle(?) I lost the link......Help!!??!