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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by onaXR, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    If the two metal brackets that connect to the wing mounts were 1/2" longer the inside bracket would fit in its recess on the tank perfectly...but then the tank wouldn't be resting on the rubber stop on top of the tank. Catch 22...
  2. fritzcoinc

    fritzcoinc Enjoying my last V8

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    Brown colored oil.
  3. kenny61

    kenny61 Crazy Idiot

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    Earth brown or chocolate brown
  4. 6xMonsters

    6xMonsters Turd Ferguson

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    Ok, here's the situation. When they got the bike, the fired it up to give it a listen and heard the knocking I reported. Their first step was to start adding oil to see what its level was. They were apparently able to add around 1.5 quarts to it! This means the top end is likely fried to a significant degree.

    There's a fair chance I'm a moron, and I can cope with that as long as I can figure out this mystery. The Honda tech said there was no residue on the exhaust that would indicate the bike burns significant oil, and no indication of leak anywhere else. The bike is garage kept and there is no oil on my floor. It has 2400ish miles on it, with less than 2k on the current oil change. I've never smelled burning oil or seen smoke come from the bike ever. It's a brand new 2013 and I can't figure out where 70% of the bike's oil went over the course of one month of riding and why there was no indicator that it was burning up (smell or smoke). As I said in my first post, I checked the oil in the parking lot after I pulled over. It was leaned on the stand, which I know can give a skewed reading, but at only 30% oil, I would think I would need to lay the bike almost on its side just to register oil level on the dip stick. Does this bike really burn THAT much oil even when new? Am I the dumb one for not checking it every day?

    Another bump in the road with this problem is the dealer I took it to is changing owners and is not doing warranty or service work, meaning I need to go pick it up and drop it off at a different one on the other side of town and work with a bunch of new guys on getting it up and running. I'm going to still try and get it warrantied because I'd prefer not to pay a thousand dollars. Worse case, I'll just be mad for a little while and probably drunk for a few days after I fork over all that money. I love my XRL and just want the damn thing working again. I hate driving a car.

    I'll post more updates as they come about the full problem. I'm going to try and get pictures of the parts. They have to send them off to Honda anyway to make a decision on the warranty. :cry
  5. 6xMonsters

    6xMonsters Turd Ferguson

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    Unrelated to my above post, what do you guys think of the racks by TCI Products? I've been eyeballing this one since before I got the XRL: https://tciproductsusa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=144_150_152&products_id=746

    I planned on ordering used pelicans on eBay for the side cases for when I need the load up for travel. The rack appears to only mount to the subframe, so I also looked around for supports and found these: http://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-motech-sub-frame-support-arms-honda-xr650l-silver

    Thoughts?
  6. snoman002

    snoman002 Been here awhile

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    Thumpers burn oil, especially at highway speed, at least thats what I have heard. I check my oil upon pulling into my garage about every other ride (short commute). 2000 miles is also a fairly large amount on an oil change from what I hear.

    I'm surprised you were able to get an oil reading if it was massively low.
  7. XR650L_Dave

    XR650L_Dave Long timer

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    I'd like to know what method they used to add the oil, and how they determined how much it would take.

    I'd also like to see a measuring of how much comes out of the frame and the sump when they drain it.
  8. kenny61

    kenny61 Crazy Idiot

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  9. nic579

    nic579 x

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    Seeing they don't do warranty repairs i suspect you were getting a line to sell you their service dept labor.
  10. joexr

    joexr Banned

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    I get the feeling when he refilled after his oil change he filled it without running it any and only filled the tank.:cry
  11. techforlife

    techforlife CDI REPAIR

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    As long as it isn`t brown with bits of corn in it,,you`re good.....




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  12. kenny61

    kenny61 Crazy Idiot

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  13. 6xMonsters

    6xMonsters Turd Ferguson

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    I followed the manual to the letter. This is why it confuses me so much. I filled from a 5 quart jug with volumes on the side of it as well so I know how much went into it.
  14. alvincullumyork

    alvincullumyork I wish I was cool

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    Chain grease?


    Sent from my clutch hand while riding a wheelie....
  15. 805gregg

    805gregg Long timer

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    I am asking for my son, I have a short 30" inseam so I have a DR, my son is looking to get his first DS bike, and since he is tall I recomended a Honda XR650L, I'm not familar with XRL's so what is a good year for a used XRL? thanks
  16. Spud Rider

    Spud Rider Long timer

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    Indeed, I usually check the oil on all my bikes after every ride. The XR650L does use some oil when running at highway speeds.

    The owner's manual specifies an oil change every 2,000 miles, and an oil filter change every 8,000 miles. I follow this schedule with good results. However, I must say my used oil looks much better since I installed my oil cooler. :deal

    Spud :beer
  17. edjo69

    edjo69 Been here awhile

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    Also on my tank, the depressions for that bracket to sit in are at different heights, very odd. I may ditch it.
  18. mcma111

    mcma111 Long timer

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    They are all the same from day one back in 1993. Although the '93 and '94 had a 1/2" shorter shock everything since is the same but for colors and graphics.

    Find the one that is well priced and not beat. I'm working on a fellas 2003 motor that needed a new countershaft because the PO installed an aftermarket sprocket and it killed the shaft. To inspect the shaft the sprocket MUST be removed for inspection.
  19. JWhitmore44

    JWhitmore44 pistolero

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    Assuming you changed your oil at about 500 miles after break in that puts you at about 1900 on this oil. I'm with XR650L_Dave, would like to know how much oil ends up being drained out. I would think if it went thru that much oil at least the plug should look oil fouled.


    For sub frame supports you may want to look into Manracks hog legs http://www.manracks.com/#!honda-xr650l/c108q
  20. snoman002

    snoman002 Been here awhile

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    Good advice right there. Pull the cover for sure (people welding sprockets to the shaft is not unheard of) and if at all possible pull the sprocket and check the shaft. Some groves are OK, and you can put a 650r sprocket on the prevent further wear, but a badly worn shaft is an expensive repair so the bike needs to be DIRT cheap or just walk away.

    Other than that its standard use vehicle purchase, see it in the day, listen closely, look for fudged up repairs, etc.

    Otherwise as mentioned they are all the same, so then its just mileage and condition. Probably one of the easiest bikes to buy, almost dead reliable and no 'bad years' to watch out for, not to mention 20 years of bikes to pick from.