XS650 Appresh

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by buffaloborn, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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  2. Gham

    Gham Long timer

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  3. SpeedFourJoe

    SpeedFourJoe Adventurer

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    This is my '79 Special that I just did some work on. I used the All Balls tapered steering bearings and TC Bros. Choppers bronze swingarm bushings, and recommend them both.
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  4. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    That's very nice original looking bike, hope you enjoy it, do you do much travelling on it?
    Cheers
    Baza
  5. SpeedFourJoe

    SpeedFourJoe Adventurer

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    Thanks! It will mainly be used just for country road exploring and fun, but I'd love to do some long trips on it sometime.
  6. motomike14

    motomike14 Thumper Crusader

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    Did a similar treatment to my Honda CB750. Huge difference. Would also do steering head bearings too if at all possible. Those combined with progressive springs/shocks has yielded the best handling motorcycle I have ever owned.
  7. 1f2frfbf

    1f2frfbf full-time fool

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    I updated (err, well... still updating, really) my bike in bits and chunks. I can say the biggest single change came with the bronze swingarm bushings. Nothing else came close. More power here and there with carbs and pods, better handling with shocks and bearings, more reliability with ignition and charging upgrades, so on, so forth. But: New bushings = totally new and better handling. I dunno how the needle bearings compare, but the bronze bushings upgrade should be the first thing you change.
  8. MSrider

    MSrider Rebel with a sixfiddy

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    Nice Special with good up-gradage.
  9. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Just found half a circlip on the sump plug while dropping the oil out, :eek1
    motor now coming out for a good look-see, easier to work on anyway! :huh
    keep you posted [with photos] :cry
    Cheers
    Baza
  10. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Photos of progress on the motor surgery later today
    Cheers
    Baza
  11. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    As promised; photos of motor surgery,
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    two half washers [on left] found on sump plug
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    Culprit is on the left [right photo] - has been squashed flat allowing the collet washers to fall out!
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    circlip pliers show position of kickstart gearing behind clutch basket
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    MikesXS bottom filter;- worth it's weight in gold!
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    Stuffed clutch plates, guess it happens after 45k hard kilometers!
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    made of steel & works a treat! bashplate shows 'war wounds'
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    K460 Dunlop [16"] - my favourite tyre, others used Dunlop 606 [18"], Chenshin [19"] & Metzler ME880 [16"]
  12. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    All the gear is on the way from MikesXS, so for the time being I'm hooting around on my '81 Special 'Tourer',
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    might even stick the trailer on behind for next weekend's rally
    Cheers
    Baza
  13. cjbiker

    cjbiker Nobody's Robot

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    That is really nice looking. Much less 80's factory chopper looking than most Specials I've seen. Are the bars stock? Looks like aftermarket pipes? Any other details you can share?
  14. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    I'd jump the gun for him and say stock pipes, aftermarket bars.

    Very clean bike.
  15. SpeedFourJoe

    SpeedFourJoe Adventurer

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    Thanks! Those are Bikemaster "European" bars. The pipes are stock. It has a Saddlemen seat cover, fork gaiters for a Triumph, an XJ750 front rotor, braided brake lines, and the chain guard is painted black. Other than that it is mostly stock, and still has the original paint on the tank and side covers. Here is a link to the photo set of the work done on it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/speedfourjoe/sets/72157627478817247/
  16. cjbiker

    cjbiker Nobody's Robot

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    Thanks! I just looked through the photo gallery. Excellent job! I have been looking for a good deal on a standard, but after seeing what you were able to do with yours with just a few minor changes, I may take another look at the more common specials that I see for sale around here.
  17. SpeedFourJoe

    SpeedFourJoe Adventurer

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    They sure are easier to find. One suggestion is to look for a '78 or '79 Special. Basically, they are about half way between a standard and the '80 and up Specials. They still have the side hinged seat, metal side covers, the BS38 carbs, and a standard style tail light, so easier to make a roadster from.

    I have a project '75 standard, and when I first got this '79 I was really surprised how close they were, and I actually like the looks of the slimmer Special tank better. While I prefer the 18"/19" spoke wheels on the '75, the overall height of the 16" rear wheel is about the same as the 18". It has more side wall than the 18", so a little heavier, but handles fine. It feels like my SR500 on the backroads.
  18. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    I was surprised how well behaved a Special is on dirt, given the right tyres of course!
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    I run Dunlop K460 x 16" on rear, Dunlop K70 19" on front, great combo for all round riding, tar & dirt
    Cheers
    Baza
  19. Reverand Roadblock

    Reverand Roadblock nobody

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    In addition to the swingarm and steering head bearing upgrades, what other improvements do you folks recommend? I'm putting a shopping list together.
  20. PhiSig1071

    PhiSig1071 What's ******width?

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