XS650 Appresh

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by buffaloborn, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. Viser

    Viser Yeeeeaaaahhh!

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    Looks like a few nice XS's around here. Picked mine up in May last year and started playing around with a few different looks. I've decided to go with more of a Scrambler look, but this is how it sat up until the now started flying. It's been a ton of fun to play with!

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  2. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Can't swap gearbox cogs between Specials & 447-Standards either, Specials have different cuts on the bevels [teeth], however, you can swap the whole box between Specials & Standards, most other parts do interchange apart from seats, if you end up with an imported bike from Europe, you may find other engine differences such as stroke etc, as well as wiring issues.
    Check out Australia's XS650 National Club website;-
    www.xs650.org.au/

    Cheers
    Baza
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  3. TheRadBaron

    TheRadBaron Been here awhile

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    Here's a couple pictures of the XS650 scrambler that I built. Man, do I love this bike. It's heavy for off road use, but I would ride it to the far reaches of the globe with confidence.
    I managed to build one "good" motor out of three bad ones for it and I don't think that the rings ever sealed. It burns more oil than a motor should be able to burn and still run. Run great, actually. Thanks to that 75,000 volt green monster coil I haven't fouled a plug yet...except for that one time when I went underwater. Does a soaking wet plug count as fouled?
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  4. 1f2frfbf

    1f2frfbf full-time fool

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    It's fun to see all the centerstands on this thread. Apparently a lot of people share my hatred of the "too short" stock kickstand. That lean angle gives me a heart attack, every time. It and the alternator rotor with the brushes and my two least favorite design ideas. Well that and the plastic bushings, but I'm convinced an accountant snuck into that design meeting.

    Also, I think '79 was the last year for the adjustable air screw, with the switch to the BS34 carb in 1980 it went away for good, but it was there on the 78-79's, just hidden. The early Specials still have a good bit of metal, but starting in '80, there's a lot more plastic and the seat suddenly switched to the rear hinge. Most parts may not fit exactly but can be coaxed into position... if you're desperate.
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  5. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Changed the sidestand on my '74 to allow the bashplate to fit on,
    [rear bike in photo]

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    Couldn't find any close-up shots but you see if you enlarge the photos.
    Cut the mount off and moved it back, attached it on the exhaust mounts on the frame, bit of engineering but works well.
    Cheers
    Baza
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  6. twinsarehot

    twinsarehot n00b

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    Yes, the charging on these have always been terrible. A lot of people have been retrofitting permanent magneto's. Apparently super easy to throw one on from a Yamaha Banshee. Also for some reason my 82 came with adjustable air screws...not complaining at all. The BS34's work VERY well and efficiently with aftermarket needles. Otherwise they are kinda lackluster.

    this bike DOES have a gangsta lean.
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    That's why I usually leave it on my bike jack. BTW Visor, that kind of seat is that? Looks wicked awesome for a solo seat!
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  7. Garbln

    Garbln Been here awhile

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    Most bikes of that era till today have brushes on the rotors as does the alternator on your car. Nothing wrong with the basic idea, it's just a little light duty on the old XS. Same basic system as on my BMW's also a little light duty too. Brushes on rotors is not the real problem. Of course the "new" perm mag system with a zener regulator is cool now. But wait, that was the Lucas system in the 50's and 60's and it worked swell then?
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  8. drhach

    drhach gorillamanufacturing.com

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    I passed on so many of these way back before the cafe/bobber idiocy struck our nation. Now it seems either you can't find a stock one or they want an arm and a leg for them. I still hear about the mythical "cheap XS650" purchase, but it hasn't happened for me yet and I just can't stomach some othe prices these are fetching. It hurts, I really want one.
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  9. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    I too feel the same way.
    The chopper brat craze, the exporting of barn finds out of the US.
    Will there be any left that arent bastardized?
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  10. Viser

    Viser Yeeeeaaaahhh!

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    Thanks Twinsarehot, it's actually a Solo Sportster seat thats been retro-fitted to work and its been growing on me. I really like what you have going on with your bike, do you have any pics of the other side to share with us? I've been wanting to do a 2-1 exhaust but see guys saying they can't tune it right...
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  11. Viser

    Viser Yeeeeaaaahhh!

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    What'cha running for rear shocks on this beast, size wise? Are they 14's, or is the chopped fender throwing me off? I bet this thing is fun on the fire roads with the 21 on the front!

    Edit: That's not a 21... My bad.
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  12. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Q to TheRadBaron, those forks, what size over are they? 2" or 4" ?
    Cheers
    Baza
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  13. TheRadBaron

    TheRadBaron Been here awhile

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    The high fenders must be misleading. The forks are very close to the stock length. The tubes are from a '79 Honda CB750F and the sliders are '74 CB450. I forget the exact measurements, but I believe this setup is within 1/2" of the stock XS650 length.
    The rear shocks are Progressive 13" units with adjustable preload and damping. They work very nicely. I was thinking about using some longer shocks, but I didn't like the increased chain slack necessary with the more severe swingarm angle.
    I laced the front wheel up myself and I wish that I would have gone with a 21". I've had some bad crashes off road that I am convinced wouldn't have happened with a 21.
    On the subject of center stands vs. side stands, I removed my side stand since getting rid of the big mounting lug gained 1.5" more ground clearance. I never bothered to fabricate up another side stand and just rely on the center stand. It works great around town, but becomes a BIG problem off road with a heavily loaded bike.
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  14. buffaloborn

    buffaloborn EAT WINGS OR DIE

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    What are the details on your seat? It looks really nice. I like the look of a semi-solo seat. If purchased, did you have to put the stock XS hardware on the bottom of the pan?
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  15. twinsarehot

    twinsarehot n00b

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    It's an older picture, but it's a clear shot of the exhaust. The original "exhaust" basically crumbled away when I rode it home from a friend's grandfather's barn.....I picked up the 2-1 setup used for cheap...it's from MikesXS.

    Runs like a charm but getting the mix right is tricky, took about a week of checking my plugs every 20 miles before I got it right. Tuning it with a $5 homemade manometer was very helpful.

    My buddy makes excellent exhausts for the xs650, he's on this site I believe, but is very active on xs650.com.

    http://mysite.verizon.net/reszw9bp/

    That's a link to his site.
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  16. Viser

    Viser Yeeeeaaaahhh!

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    I've seen lots of talk about Gordon's work over on the XS site, I've been lurking over there off and on for just a few weeks. Gordon has a really sweet side hack XS with a nicely done up scrambler style exhaust. What I've been wanting is a High 2 -1 that goes into a reverse megaphone style exhaust, think Arrow or Zard scrambler (with out the price tag). Your setup is great, I like how the megaphone has a nice up-sweep as apposed to the Mac 2-1.

    It's probably time I send an email off to Gordon and get some input. Oh, and thanks for the link.
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  17. Viser

    Viser Yeeeeaaaahhh!

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    Thanks for the compliment buffaloborn, the seat is a plain solo sportster seat that I got when I bought the bike, as well as a set of saddle bags and a windshield (bike came with OEM seat). When these pics were taken I had nothing but a U-bolt holding the front tongue in place and a single bolt for the rear tab that went down through the rear fender. It was fine for a few short trips up and down the road for a mock-up, but I wouldn't trust it on any long rides. I'm debating if I should trim down the original seat pan and toss the sportster foam at it to see what happens. I just haven't made up my mind yet as I also really like whats going on with the bike below. :evil

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  18. fixn2go

    fixn2go Colo. red dirt rider

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    :clap Nice looking rides ! I found an 81 I believe and added the Street tracker kit w/pipes. I now need points and new petcocks on the gas tank , the old ones are not rebuildable , the tank was second hand and I repainted it so it may be from another year . My question is who's the one to contact for parts on these old bikes ? I've fired mine up a few times but I'd like to get it up to par. Sounds like it'll wake up the whole neigborhood with the megaphones ! Thanks for the help .
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  19. fleshpiston

    fleshpiston Been here awhile

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    I could be wrong but an 81 should have electronic ignition.

    for parts..... http://www.mikesxs.net/
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  20. jamesgs4

    jamesgs4 Been here awhile

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