XS650 Appresh

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by buffaloborn, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Anyone out there? been quiet on this thread of late, or am I talking to myself [happens!] :clap
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    Cheers
    Baza
  2. MightyChosen1

    MightyChosen1 I wanna be sedated

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    I'm still here . Due to the brutal winter in the Midwest I have not had much of chance to get the old XS ready. But I am still hoping to have it on the road by mid March.
  3. bpeckm

    bpeckm Grin!

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    ..and I am thinking of retrieving my son's XS650 from VT this spring... he is headed for the Big Apple for a new job in June, and I might just have to "park" his bike in my garage this summer...... dumm, dee, dumm, dee, dumm..........:evil

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  4. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Getting worried there for a while fellas, thought you'd all left the life of XS650's & bought other toys!, :clap
    forgot it was winter over there, with real snow! :eek1
    Heading off for a ride down to Pinch River - south of Jindabyne, in Snowy Mountains area of NSW, 8, 9 & 10 March :freaky
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    Hoping to poach some parts off a friend from Victoria, need a complete front end off a '77 onwards - 35mm forks & dual discs, what would that be woth over your way? :deal
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    The road runs roughly down the centre of the valley behind 'fati [Dave]
    Cheers
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  5. England-Kev

    England-Kev Long timer

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    I have a couple of questions...

    I see from 1978 on the shock mount has been moved forward, and it looks like the rear foot peg mount has also changed? apart from that are the frames the same as for the pre 78 models (headstock angle etc) ?

    Also I note the rear alloy wheel is 16" and fitted with a disk, if this was to be changed out, to the earleir drum brake rear wheel, can the earlier rear brake pedal be fitted on the same pivot point?

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  6. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Short answer to changing from disc to rear drum - yes :clap
    Easier to change out swingarm to drum model too, this gives you the mount for the anchor rod, changing the brake lever will require that the splined cam with rod be used, same pivot point, :wink:
    Other alternative is to use rear 16" wheel from a later model with drum brakes - '81 onwards, should be same as Aussie models:deal
    Cheers
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  7. bpeckm

    bpeckm Grin!

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    On our bike (blue frame up there ^) it started out as a Special, which was a 16" rear wheel, but it did have drum brake on the rear. We re-built the wheel with new stainless 18" spokes (still available) after sourcing an 18" rim (40 spoke) from a different model Yamaha (I don't recall which, but they were available on eBay by finding a complete 18" wheel, dis-assembling, and then re-selling the eBay hub)...

    Yamaha built so many of these bikes, with so many variations, and so many other bikes with interchangeable parts! It was pretty easy to source lots of ways to change it. It was definitely a fun project!! :evil

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  8. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Other alternative is to use rear 16" wheel from a later model with drum brakes - '81 onwards, should be same as Aussie models:deal

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    16" mag on a '74 rear end - using '74 brake hub in a mag wheel, no problems :deal
    Only earlier wheels & brakes might not interchange [pre '74 - xs1/xs2/tx], :cry
    Discs for 34mm fork models [pre '77], & 35mm fork models [post '77] differ, :wink:
    As said before, a lot of items interchange but I'm unsure about early models - '74, as I haven't anything that early since the mid '70's :eek1
    Out of interest, has anyone found different tanks off other models/brands that fit the XS? :ear
    Cheers
    Baza
  9. BIG ED XT FAN

    BIG ED XT FAN Long timer

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    BAZA, We are having a real winter over here. Lots of snow, ice, and more snow!!! Very low temps too. 2- 5 d temps.
    But alot of ice to ride the ice bikes on!!:freaky:clap:lol3:eek1:eek1
    So, No road riding it all.:lol3:lol3:wink::eek1
    Is your Fall and winter are coming???
    BIG ED XS 650 FAN!!!!:eek1:eek1:eek1:eek1:lol3:lol3:lol3:lol3
  10. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    We don't get snow as a rule in this area, bit further south is the Snowy Mountains & that little island called Tasmania copes a fair share :deal
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    Huon Valley in southern Tasmania
    We do down to -10c here in a good winter, with white & black ice on the roads, makes for interesting riding at times :lol3
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    In a dry spell at the moment, hopefully a drop of rain this weekend :clap
    Cheers
    Baza
  11. BIG ED XT FAN

    BIG ED XT FAN Long timer

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    Baza, Do see the DT 250 Gas Tank yamaha 650 bike?
    Looks Goods!!
    I never thought that "Tasmania" would get snow. We have a cartoon of the "Tasmania Dev." here in the usa. All it shows it going around the Dry "Bush":eek1:eek1
    BIG ED XT&TT&XS 600 650 Fan!!:lol3:lol3:eek1:eek1:freaky:freaky
  12. Growl

    Growl Adventurer

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    I use a Harley FXR tank... 4+ gallons... Minimum modifications... Some diddling where the cups are on the frame... removed them... The petcock, well I bent it slightly towards the rear... Looks decent, I bought a chrome centerpiece dash for it.
  13. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Bottom tank is a 22.5lt Eldorado Moto Guzzi, circa early '70's, not much work to mount up, top tank is off a CB750 Honda - F series. :deal

    Would really like to find something about 25 - 30 lts, how big a tank can you get with Harleys? :ear
    Cheers
    Baza
  14. 10ecjed

    10ecjed Been here awhile

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    Hey there 650 nuts. I am still around too. Been riding when I can but MD getting a bit of snow too. Currently I am on work travel in Tanegashima, Japan and won't be back home until mid March. Enough of that.
    I still have not got a second set of rims yet but still plan to. I purchased a set of handle bar mitts though and the work pretty good at keeping the old fingers warm. Only problem is when you get some speed up, the wind pushes them back and makes the brake light come on. So I bought some 1 inch wide x 1/8 inch thick 304 stainless steel bar stock from Fastenal and made a hand guard for the right side. I can,t use store bought guards because of the drag bars are not wide enough for the inside mounts. I have it mounted to the top pinch bolt on the triple tree and to the bar end mirror. This works great. I can't wait to get home and fab the left side guard. I will post the photos when I get the job done.
    PS I hope to get over to Yakushima and rent a motorcycle for the week end before I leave Japan. I did that back in 1997 and had a blast on a Two stroke, oil injected Honda 100.
  15. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Who are you calling 'Nuts', we're the sane ones by riding XS650's :eek1
    Had much of a chance to veiw the local bike scene??? :eek1
    Seen a lot of custom stuff from Japan, some great bike builders over there :deal
    Cheers
    Baza
  16. 10ecjed

    10ecjed Been here awhile

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    I am on an island south of main part of Japan. Its about 30 mile long and 6 miles wide. Most action here is scooters. But not all in one place. Mostly farm land here with three towns. I did see a mint condition 1976? KZ900. Sweet. He rides it around sometimes. Yesterday I saw three bikes going down the road and one was older Triumph. Then saw two more people riding on big sport touring bikes. That's it so far. I would love to have my 650 here since I am a 650 nut.
  17. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Heading off for a ride down into the 'Snowys' next weekend, doing the 'Cold Flame' rally on the Pinch River :freaky
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    OK while I'm on the thread - for all you budding mechanics out there, try this on for size. :huh
    VM34 roundslide Mikunis - 150 main jet
    pilot jet 30
    BS38 CV [standard diaphram carb] - 127.5 main jet
    - 45 pilot jet

    Can/should - I drop the VM main jet down to around 130 & up the pilot 45 ?????? :wink:

    Original VM jetting [from the states] was 180 main / 25 pilot, blew black smoke like a beauty!!!!!! :eek1

    Cheers
    Baza
  18. England-Kev

    England-Kev Long timer

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  19. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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  20. redfishguide

    redfishguide Old Dirt Biker

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    I think you might need to go the other way. I have 34 round slides and run 185 mains and 25 pilots. From my experience 25 and 30 seems pretty close to standard. I do have some engine work so not running stock.

    Keep in mind the mains only effect from about 3/4 throttle to full while the pilots effect most of the throttle range.

    Btw I'm at sea level but would assume higher altitudes would require even leaner settings.

    As usual just my 2 cents so take it for what it's worth.

    Jack