XS650 Appresh

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by buffaloborn, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. TroopThrowback

    TroopThrowback Been here awhile

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  2. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Roughly 32k miles [50k kms], has had a hard life though, looks like I'll have to do a top-end inspection about that mark just keep it fresh! :deal
    Talking to a mate who has a KTM 950 Adventure, he changed his camchain @ 80k km, so it doesn't make me feel so bad! :wink:
    Do the run today & see how it goes :freaky
    Cheers
    Baza
  3. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Just for you Troop :clap
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    Some of the awards @ the 'Apollo' :deal
    Back later with more :freaky
    Cheers
    Baza
  4. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Changed out the old camchain last week, :evil
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    Stretched by one link or is that 1/2 link?, 1 link I think :deal
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    New chain is the top one, lot of sideways flex, :eek1
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    Pain in-the-arse exercise for me with bumbly fingers but managed it OK, didn't drop the joining link down into the motor, [not a favourite thing to do!!!!!] :cry
    Went for a ride on the W/E down to Honeysuckle Creek for the 'Apollo' rally, a good twisty hilly ride out WJ rd - Mountain Creek Rd - Cotter - Tharwa - Rally site, :wink:
    'Kenny' is like a new bike, pulling up hills in top gear with ease, much nicer ride. :clap
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    Jumped on 'White Beast' when I got back, went down to Yass - yep, motor is coming out shortly for the once-over for him too!!!:lol3
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    Felt like riding a 250 after being on 'Kenny', no grunt at all, 50,000KM seems like rebuild time for these beasts, but they've both had hard lives since I originally rebuilt them :cry
    Cheers
    Baza
  5. impala4speed

    impala4speed Adventurer

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    Hi Hunter Greyghost,
    Have very much enjoyed this thread and especially your adventures. I have a question about the cam chain change. Did you just do the chain only? Reason I ask is I want to do the same on my '78 but wonder if I need to also pull off the barrels for new rings. Compression is pretty good, 140 and 145 PSI and bike runs very well. But I thought if I could get away with doing only the cam chain (and new guides) without disturbing the cylinder barrels then this would be the route I'd take. Mileage is at 51,000 miles. I bought the bike with 34,000 miles and don't know the prior history. Any insight is much appreciated.

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  6. TroopThrowback

    TroopThrowback Been here awhile

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    If your compression is good the chain alone should be fine. By the looks of your machine those were easy miles. When the notes finally wear an you're losing compression and therefore power deal with it then.

    That's my thought. New pistons and a bore job is not considered "preventive maintenance" in any book I've ever read.


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  7. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Like Troop said, I wouldn't worry about rings etc with compression of 140+, :deal
    How much thread have you got left on your camchain adjuster?, have you got any rattles?, :ear
    you can change out the front guide but you have to drop the head off, you have a big job if you have to do the back camchain guide, this involves all the top end off & split the camchain, :eek1
    I was lucky and only had to change out the front one this time, from what I saw - I'm thinking two front guides/chains to one back guide? :clap
    If your bike has 51K miles on it, I would be thinking about it but as you said, you've had it since 34k, maybe it has been changed already?, not knowing the past history is a big pain :huh
    Cheers
    Baza
  8. impala4speed

    impala4speed Adventurer

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    Troop and Baza,
    Thanks very much for the advice. Still have some threads left on chain adjuster although I think I'm due for an adjustment and valve adjust check so I will double-check the threads left. A little over a week ago I got back from a camping weekend at Vintage Motorcycle Days at Mid-Ohio racetrack. Only about 130 miles from me. Bike ran great, I could run along at 65-70 MPH occasionally running at 75 (the 32t rear sprocket really helps). After getting home I noticed a little ticking from the engine at idle. Not real loud but definitely noticeable. I'll do the cam chain and valve adjustments and go from there.
    Thanks again for the help guys.
  9. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Hello - is anyone out there?, been quiet of late, not booked in for another rally until 30/31 August, the mighty 'TTT' - "Trasher's Terrifying Trek" :freaky

    One of the best [& hardest] rallys to do in Ozzie land, this year is an OCR [Off Centre Rally] year, so there'll be some good yarns from the survivers:lol3
    It's up at Drysdale River Station [west of Wyndham], top end of Western Australia, some gut busting roads up that way :deal
    So come on you Northern Hemisphere fellas - where's all ya ride reports? :wink:
    Cheers
    Baza
  10. 2manyrides

    2manyrides shifty charactor

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    Yep, Still out here Baza...
    Been watching all along, just haven't been posting.

    Riding the yamaha exclusively right now, but no big trips on it.

    So to contribute...
    I got a ticket and went to court about it in 1984...

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    Went for some test rides and stuff after swapping in an 81 motor...

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    :deal no new vidios lately though.
  11. BIG ED XT FAN

    BIG ED XT FAN Long timer

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    I been lay-up with a bad toe.:cry
    Gone on the 23 of june, just getting back to work.
    Pick-up a 650 XS enduro bike. Has yz 490 forks, small fuel tank, etc. No photos yet just getting to un stick parts. Front wheel was like welded on. Had to cut front cable, and pound the front axle out.
    I got a Front hub off my TT600. Bolts right in. Thanks Yamaha.
    Also havce a small pile of new parts for my 1# 650. New rear tire, swingarm bolt, front fork brace, swingarm bushes. Well thats it for now.
    I got my good friend coming next week, We will get all the stuff on too. Oh a new battery too this week.
    Now if only stop raining:eek1:eek1Its like rain for 3-4 days this week, with great flooding!!:wink::clap:huh I rode for 3 hours in a car today, i never seen rain come down so hard, people were stopping under bridges to get out of it.:norton:eek1:eek1
  12. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Jeez, them bad toes are no fun, had an infected foot back '10 - when Bev & I were building the house, missed out on two rallys because of it & took weeks to heal, :puke1
    Thought everyone up your way would been out riding heaps during summer, I've done a few during winter but had both bikes playing up, bloody camchains!, :eek1
    Looking forward to spring & some decent riding weather, been in the minuses here lately, and with windchill factor it's been pretty ordinary - plenty of workshop time happening! :wink:
    Get some photos of that 'Adventure' XS, sounds interesting :clap
    Cheers
    Baza
  13. SpeedFourJoe

    SpeedFourJoe Adventurer

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    I just did a paint job on my '79 Special.
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  14. retiredgentleman

    retiredgentleman Been here awhile

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    That's just a super well done job on your bike. Great detail and love the colour.

    Why don't you become a member over at http://www.xs650.com/forum/. The lads over there would really enjoy seeing your bike.
  15. 10ecjed

    10ecjed Been here awhile

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    Cool ride. Love those trials tires. Can't put them on my special. Damn 16in rear rim. Did you make the skid plate? If you did, out of what?
    Great job man.
  16. MightyChosen1

    MightyChosen1 I wanna be sedated

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    Nice job! Whats the front fender and seat off?
  17. SpeedFourJoe

    SpeedFourJoe Adventurer

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    Thanks! I've got some great info from that forum, but have never registered. I might have to some time.

    Mine came with the 16" rear, so I swapped to the 18". I made the skid plate from a road sign.

    The front fender is from a '71 DT1. I think any '68-'73 AT/CT/DT/RT fender should be the same. I made adapter brackets from an old XS fender. The seat is from a '72-'73 Kawasaki G5 100 with a Pit Replica reproduction cover.
  18. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Very nicely done, looks great, :clap
    Cheers
    Baza
  19. hunter_greyghost

    hunter_greyghost XS650 Allroads Traveller

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    Had a blast on the weekend, went & did the 'TTT' rally, it was pretty wet road-wise, pretty treacherous in places :freaky
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    Turnoff to the 'walk-in-the-woods'
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    A hint of what's to come!
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    Left hand side was about crankcase deep, nice little surprise
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    In and set-up, Doc has a good shot of my sliding stop, not as good as some though!
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    Crampy & his R80
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    Gordy's mighty CB250, who needs knobs, road tyres are good
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    Mick & Pete
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    Mudcrab & Doctor doing a fashion parade of the latest headwear
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    So close but so far, first of several grand entrances
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    Duckslider giving 'up-right' riding advice
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    Cagiva rider making a sedate entrance
    Big thanks to Trasher & Sonia for another top weekend :freaky
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    Thunder Dan, rides a very cool & well setup 650 Transalp Honda, :rofl
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    This photo is from the 'Thunder' rally last year
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    TVR girls - Tracy & 'Leafy', Mick, Doctor, TigerMick, Gordy, Duckslider, ADpete & Strudy :freaky
    Log of Knowledge was in top form - apart from a couple of well known 'absentees' - 'fati & Godsilla :norton
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    The ploughed paddock is caused by wild pigs that roam the area, they do heaps of damage :eek1
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    And they kept rollin' in :clap
    Cheers
    Baza
  20. 10ecjed

    10ecjed Been here awhile

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    Cool. Glad someone is riding.
    Good pics. Always enjoy them.
    I've been in this moving process the last few weeks along with other stuff and did not getting ride until last Tuesday. I was so happy to do y commute on two wheels. At least until I got on Rt 70 east.
    I was doing about 80mph, then going up a hill and could not get over 70. I thought I lost another diaphragm in one carb. But then I couldn't get over 65 going down hill. Then 55. Oh no. Got off at exit and left rear wheel bearing is smoking. Well I didn't make it to work. I let it sit about an hour or so and limped home on slow roads about 20 miles. Kept checking and no smoke. Made it home and am waiting on new bearings and seals.
    I'm jones ing to ride.