XT1200Z: The new WaspWorks Super Tenere, in detail and the evolution

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Wasp, Jul 2, 2010.

  1. Shane Stump

    Shane Stump Been here awhile

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    Is that RUM & coke :rofl:rofl:rofl!

    You are definitely going to be the poster child for all of us when it comes to farkling our bikes!

    Best regards,

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  2. Wasp

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    :evil Good eyes mate.... Close.
    CC & Coke - The beverage of champions - The nectar of the Gods.

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  3. Shane Stump

    Shane Stump Been here awhile

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    Well, I know most evenings when I am winding down my day, the Bacardi Rum bottle + Diet Dr Pepper (several) gets "accessed" :D!

    I can't wait to see your "finished' bike (if that ever happens)!

    Best Regards,

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  4. Wasp

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    "Finished bike".. :rofl. Hold your breathe startiiiiiiiing.... Now.

    My bikes never get finished, they just constantly evolve.

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  5. RogerJ

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    Haven't enjoyed a thread so much in years! Thanks.:lurk
  6. Wasp

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    I'm rekanin you might be onto it R3B... I dont mind the look of that angle.

    Ohh, another thing. I noticed for the first time just now, the left and right lower seat support tubes are not parallel (see the first pic). They depart from under the tail at the same point but bolt to the main frame at different heights.:huh The left is higher to clear the drive output.

    As can be seen from the picks, the bottom end of the muffler can be swung inwards and the outlet swung slightly outwards for gasses to clear the indicator.
    The view from underneath does not show the clearance for the side of the tyre but it is clear.
    This will still work well with my pillion pegs hanger project.
    I just have to check that the SWM frame and boxes still have clearance but I am very sure they will.

    Thanks for the opinions guys.

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    Greg.
  7. Wasp

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    Glad so many inmates like it... I enjoy bringing it to you.

    Although my web site downloads have gone crazy with all the views on these pics.. It's well and truely getting hit on by the search engines outside of ADV traffic now. May have to double the quota again.

    Greg.
  8. Dallara

    Dallara Creaks When Walks...

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    Best thread about the Super Tenere on the 'net right now, IMHO! :clap

    Thanks for taking the time to post all the pics and your ideas.

    Dallara




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  9. GB

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    Looks good Greg..:thumb Curious to see what you're going to do about the passenger peg bracket.


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  10. jdpower

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    I'm with everyone about this thread. Keep it coming. As for the can, since whatever you come up with looks to be way less in size than OEM, do you think one might be able to use a regular side case without a "cutout" to make room for the OEM cannon? Just a thought.

    JDP
  11. dcstrom

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    I'm likin' the look of that muffler now you've re-angled it. Now you just need to make it extend rearward a little more without resorting to a dicky-looking extension tube like you see on some GS's.

    Trevor
  12. lc8john

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    Ditto!
  13. AllOrds

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    HEY!! You holding out on us ?


    Whats wit da links (dog bones)?

    There's a set on the table and another on the bike

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  14. jdpower

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    Greg, while you are at it, is there a way to design a skid plate that won't depend on attachment areas that could be potentially vulnerable like Yamaha's or the front of the SW Motech one?

    JDP
  15. combo

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    I love the can design and position. I look forward to the final product and sound.:lurk

    By the way it looks like you are in need of another rear tire? What kind of miles did you get out of it?:ricky
  16. JonnyCinco

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    Schveet ride Wasp.

    quicky: think the SWM crashbars will prevent damage to the engine case covers in the event of the S10 taking a nap? Trying to look at the angle in the photos and looks as though the lower part of the case may scrap...??

    From the looks of your previous set-up (and my screen background), can you use the lower portion of the stock yami one in conjunction with the SWM's?
  17. Wasp

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    Jesus!!!, You guys dont miss a thing!!:eek1
    I'm gonna gave to start brushing my hair and cleaning under my fingernails before I take anymore pics of the bike on the slab.
    Whadaya download these pics and study them in detail like porn or something :evil.

    OK. I did actually mention in the post last night that the rear of the bike is slightly higher, and it's because of the new suspension links. I was going to post some pics up along with a short ride report but I ran out of time.

    When I first looked at my bike at the dealers I sat around ogling for quite a while and noted that, although there was no quick adjustment available for ride height it would not be too difficult to alter the rear suspension links to achieve a better stance if required.
    The more I rode my bike the more I realised that I would prefer the rear slightly higher for both ergo's (I flatfoot on the high seat setting) and to quicken up the steering (I come from very sharp handling sports bikes and competition dirt bikes).

    There is a company manufacturing a similar riser link that offers a 35mm rear rise, but I did not need that much lift and was concerned about the over increased operating angle of the drive shaft, more specifically the uni joint angle.
    Careful consideration (for my needs) and a few tests confirmed that I was after a 25mm rise height change. I removed the original link for measurement and dropped the rear wheel for the new measurement.
    The swing arm was stroked through the full motion to check if there would be any interference.
    While the link was removed I checked the hardness of the original part to find it not much different to 350# steel (although I cut these from high tensile steel).
    The part was modelled and laser cut, and what you see on the bike now is the prototype without cadd plating surface finish.

    You can see the difference in length between the two links in this pick.

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    This pic shown the rear tire on the deck. The rear tyre it is exactly 25mm lower (rear of the bike raised) than with the standard links.

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    A ride report.

    The ride height change to the bikes geometry made exactly the difference in ride characteristics that were being targeted.

    1/ At a standstill the seating position is now 1/2" gap under the heal both sides with the bike upright, and flatfoot at a comfortable balanced lean when stopped at lights. PERFECT for my Kermet the Frog legs.

    2/ The bike is quicker and more neutral steering/cornering on the road to a point where it is positively responding to foot peg load input and slight body attitude messages in corners. Change of lean angle/line mid corner and flopping over from side to side in corners is a lot quicker and sharper to the point where handling is becoming so intuitive that the bike feels like it is mind controlled.... It really has had that much impact.:lol3
    There has been absolutely NO negative effect on steering head wobbles at high speed through corners or in a straight line (even with bumps thrown into the equation) in fact it may even be the other way round. The more weighted front seems to have responded positively in a more planted way than with the previous geometry.

    3/ On the gravel/dirt (very short stint so far) the difference in geometry is very obvious with the steering feeling more direct and accurate rather than the slight barging/vague feeling from previous geometry.

    4/ The centre stand now requires lengthening. At the moment my rear tyre is very worn and I can still utilize the centre stand.. That will change when I fit a new rear as the stand will be too short by about 3/4".
    I will laser cut and press some weld-on plates for the bottom of my stand to enable the rear to still lift off the ground.
    The side stand places the bike at a slightly increased angle but I planned on making a foot plate for that anyway.

    All in all, possibly THE best change I have made so far to the WaspMOBILE.:evil:D - Very happy camper.

    I will update as I get these links plated.

    Greg.
  18. R3B

    R3B Lazy Motorcyclist

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    What does it cost to get two bones cut and put in a bag with stamps on it, would be nice to enhance the stance, and especcially the ground clearance without having to stiffen the rear which i have to do now to stop bending the jiffy pin :-
  19. GrahamD

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    Can you point me to an online source about what 350# steel actually is / means?

    I'm not a structural geek you see :deal.

    Anyway thanks for all the work Greg

    Cheers
    Graham
  20. slipknot

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    It IS porn. :thumb

    And thanks for not wearing gloves and lab coat. This ain't GSpot.:lol3