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Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Wasp, Jul 2, 2010.
P.M received - Thanks mate. Will talk soon.
The movies tuned out awesome mate, jeez, the last bit brought back the memories, it was not far after that that I ring barked that tree and killed a million ants while I was sliding down the track using my jatz crackers for brakes:huh
Greg, I may have missed it, but how'd that shifter get straighened out, and did you have to replace it? For that kind of off roading, wouldn't a foldable shifter fit the ticket?
It straightened out very well indeed, considering the fact that the toe piece was bent 180 degree's till the tip was 10>12mm from touching back on the lever:eek1.
Bully had Quick and easy access to his long reach plug socket and a 6" long 10mm diameter piece of steel rod (socket "T" bar).
I used the rod as a lever to bend the shifter tip out about 1" then hammered (assisted by a rock) the plug socket over the tip of the toe piece and wrenched it around from there.
It felt like new after these bush mods.
Folding shift and brake levers are beneficial for any bike that see's the type of terrain where you are passing rocks and logs. I would like to have them on my bike but I havent seen them around yet.
Maybe one day if I get time to finish the other projects that I want to do...?
Steve his visage is nothing that a dozen bourbons and a few shots of tequila won't fix, after all beauty is in the eye of the beerholder-
hmmm, always thought that had to do with helping the Mrs. tidy up a bit.
Nice pace Greg. Exhaust sounds good and you really are carrying the off road speed of a proper dirt bike. Looks like you've no shortage of interesting places to ride either. Just another couple of months and I'll finally have my own S10 but until then, I'm riding vicariously through your videos!
Wasp, where's that video you took when I went past ya like shit off a shovel, I cant remember if I was on the front or back wheel.
Hi Greg, and everyone else with an s10. I was just wondering how you were going with the high front mud guard project. saw pics in your thread back on page whatever it was, very impressed:eek1:eek1:eek1. we have been working on an alloy louver engine cover thingo to keep the mud and crap off the bottom of the steering head etc. Still got some nuts and bolts to sort out yet. fantastic thread by the way. cheers
You talking about the time YOU went past me while your bike stayed behind???
Still working towards the high guard.
I still need to get hold of the pattern making material yet.
Bahahahahahahaha.............oh.. ive done that....just not past you.doh!
I'm amazed, you catching some speed on those trails and your brother can't stay with you on the KTM? on a much lighter bike?
You ride this thing pretty well, love the sound when you come out of a turn and just floor it, I'm assuming you leave the traction control on but on the less restrictive setting
have you ever thort of a rear brake resevoir protection?
With all your off roading has there ever been any signs of damage?
here's what we made. mounts on to the brace near the brake reservior . welded on piece mounts to the exhaust pipe mounting bolt. 3.5mm alloy plate, machined washers. seems to work well. (no big hits yet). btw, your lookin at the bottom of the plate.
Based on the Bargenators ride report (and persuasive insistence) I installed a new K&N filter to the S10.
The Aus spec Uni filter arrangement is certainly a pain in the ass to clean and the more I thought about all that oil and crap in the filters the more I leaned towards the easy maintenance of the K&N set-up.
Anyway, here's a few pics and a brief rundown on an easy install.
1/ Remove the bottom R/H/S and the whole L/H/S farings.
2/ Unplug the tank wires and carefully lay the tank back.
3/ Remove the Original paper filter, or in this case the foam Uni filters. Thoroughly clean inside the airbox base and lid... Remember that the airbox is now an active part of the filtering process where previously the Unifilters were straight onto the rubber intakes. Any dirt left inside the filter box COULD find it's way into the intake now.
4/ Not completely necessary but a good safety measure is to use silicone grease on the rubber sealing ring to ensure ALL air has to go through the filter.
This is where the molded ridge on the underside of the K&N filter seals against the rubber sealing ring inside the lower part of the air box.
5/ Install the new filter into the greased housing groove checking that it is pushed all the way home.
6/ There is another rubber sealing ring in the top half of the air box. We believe it's a good idea to use the silicone grease here as well.. You can never have too much safety measure.. Remember, this is silicone GREASE - not silicone sealant..
7/ Plonk the lid back in place and secure all the retaining screws.
Dont forget to install the middle screw and rubber centre plug.
Filter model number:
Worth picking up a K&N service kit as well:
For under $90 I think this is a mod very well worth doing.
Dont know why Yamaha Aus did not go down this path in the first place rather than use those dirty shity Unifilters with the spring wound wire down the throat of the intakes:eek1:huh
I will be heading out for another ride in the forest this Sunday so I will report my findings on any improvement or otherwise.
Well there you are Tuska, Question answered.
It's not something I see as completely necessary, but then again, I might be saying that through my ears one day after I take the res out on a stick or something... Stranger things have happened.
Yeah that's bloody great you guys, given that I just ordered the stock S10 foam filters from Midland Yamaha (for my nephew to deliver to me), I'll be traveling next year and don't want to be stuck needing an air filter somewhere where I can't get one, so was tossing up between the foam and the K&N. I have a K&N in my Vee so it's not like I'm one of these people to fret excessively about it's filtering ability (but I think I agree with the theory that it filters better the dirtier it gets - there have been times when I've found very fine dust in the airbox. End result, I clean it less frequently... Vee has 80,000 miles with this filter so can't be too bad.)
Anyway, ended up getting the foam filter just cos of the slight but niggling doubt about the filtration of the K&N, but knowing that the foam will need more frequent service. Greg, you probably do as much dirt as anybody on the S10, how often are you needing to clean the foam filters?
I don't have the numbers but the K&N filter supposedly do not filter off-road dirt as well as other filters like UNI. I can understand your concern about the wire being in the tubes but you might look at the size of the particles the filters filter.
The flip-up fuel tank looks like a Big Plus. Very creative on your part but...it is Greg Wasp.
Hey Tomato, interesting comments about filtration of the K&N,I don't put anything on my bike without a bit of investigation first, and after checking out the K&N testing I was happy to go ahead with fitting it to my bike.
Findings of the testing are based around the following carried out in there test lab, and K&N outsource to other labs to confirm there findings:
320 grams of dust is fed into the test unit, this is made up from particles from 1 to 5 microns which is which comprises of 23% of the test to larger particles, and the overall result is 99.1% effective filtration, which exceeds paper type filters, but I can't comment on foam. But one thing stated is that foam types have to be very thick to be effective, therefore sapping HP in the process. Nothing is going to give 100%, but obviously once particles get below a certain size they do not cause engine damage in small amounts, 1/1000 of a millimeter is reasonably small.
As mentioned in Wasps thread I also recommend using silicon grease on the rubber seal of the filter and air box, I did this beacause I was not happy with the amount of fastners that secure the airbox together, it was not based on any facts but I viewed that as a pre-caution more than anything else.
As time goes on I will report my findings on how effective the K&N is with an honest appraisal.
One last comment, make sure you follow the cleaning and reoiling procedure to the letter, otherwise unseen damage may make the system less effective.
Tomato, I am not berating your comments, that's what this forum is all about, getting views and past expierences off other people, I am replying to let others know why I chose K&N.
Go to K&N here for info, whilst it is K&N based, they have been around for a long time.
Given the current discussion I thought some of you might find the following pages interesting...
Or the same info in another format:
Just FYI... And to clarify, I have used paper, oiled gauze (i.e. K&N and the like), and oiled foam all along the way over the past 40 years. I've had good luck with all three. I am in no way advocating one over another or suggesting any specific type is superior overall. To each his own.