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Discussion in '2 smokers' started by Trailhound, Jul 5, 2013.
Feel free to post up anything thats accurate technically, and not merely regurgitated advertising blurb..............
The fact you are unable to do that though, is the probably the main reason you and those like you suggest that anyone that can is a troll?
No someone that constantly wants to start arguements like yourself is a troll. You yourself have NOT posted anything to PROVE , not SUPPORT , YOUR claims. You've only posted your own conjecture. Maybe you'd have more credibility starting a tea and crumpet thread.:fyyff
No real interest in starting an argument, just pointed out if a non streamlined bike with 20bhp were to go 100mph, the laws of physics would need to have been changed to facilitate that.
Thats not a claim, suggestion, or opinion, but cold scientific fact which can be verified mathematically if needs be.
Posts from the seemingly large element of trolls on here, are in almost all cases simply personal opinions, and like the numerous claims that using autolube oil in a pre-mix bike, is to be preferred over using a proper pre-mix product, is not supported by anything other than claims from the trolls.
On another thread various trolls suggested a bike being used at altitude would need to have jet sizes increased, to compensate for lower air density. This claim is in fact the exact opposite of the actual need to reduce jet size, and is another good example of a troll blunder.
You're shitting up yet another thread with your aimless blithering. Good job TROLL.
Do you feel that posting up total BS is not reflective of shitting up a thread then, or do you feel the BS should be ignored or simply agreed with?
It's everybodys thread I guess , including yours , but you can't always tell everybody they're wrong whether they are or not. Nobody really has any credibility on the internet , so info seekers are left to try to decipher what they can. A little background and a profile can help a little , but mostly I go by what I know versus what others responses are. Sometimes you just know they're full of crap. A lot of the time guys are trying to sound like they know something when it's actually just something they heard elsewhere. This is how you tend to come across. No offense intended. Your MSDS findings make a point , but so do others. There is no proof either way. Just let it go. Continueing just discredits you. People don't listen to people that piss them off.
30+ years ago I had a geared up YZ125 that would almost do 110 MPH. It was about 20 HP. Back then everybody had Puch mopeds. With a bore -job , porting , Del-Orto carb and a Protopipe they'd do 65 or 70 MPH. I'm pretty sure they were less than 10 HP. An RD125 with expansion-chambers was about 20HP and would do about 110 MPH. Maybe one of the dyno guys can verify this.
rd125 was 16-17 hp (published specs), top speed 81mph (published specs). 2-3 more hp (chambers), light weight rider (100lbs), remove street stuff, change to much smaller bars (lower wind resistance) gearing change and a basic windscreen, change to least rolling resistance tires and play with air pressure, rider in tuck, should do 100mph+/- or so. - might take some time to get there though.
Obviously it does not bother you . You mix some truth with half truth and out right lies and try to pass yourself off as some two stroke expert. You have almost no experience except your slow-ass trials bike.
You have not posted one link to back up anything you say and change your song every time someone on here proves you wrong.
You cannot even answer simple questions other posters have asked you.
There is a lot of good info in here coming from real racers who have decades of experience you are not one of them.
On a forum concerned with technical questions, the posting up of responses which are simply not technically accurate, seems to me worse than not posting anything at all, simply due to the fact that in many cases the BS is in time is likely to get taken as fact.
A good example of this would be the fact that many users of this forum are now likely to believe that very thin autolube oils, are to be preferred over proper pre-mix only products, for use in pre-mix bikes.
you simply don't get the hint. you refuse to drop it. the pre-mix debate is for the premix thread, not for a thread about boring/cylinder swapping a dt230.. there's no need to interject other crap that has no bearing in this thread. you continue to bring this up because you think you are right. obviously many think you are not. fine. your opinion is just that. i stopped posting in that thread, primarily because it was like beating my head against a wall. a feeling you probably have to. believe what you want to, and i will believe what i want to. there's no need to rehash crap no one gives a shit about.
Everything I have posted up here is 100% technically accurate, and I would suggest that any "racer" who chooses to use autolube oil in a pre-mix bike, has little or no understanding of basic technical issues, and isnt likely to be competing on a serious level.
The stuff that gets posted up by the trolls on here, gets taken seriously by those with even less knowledge, and in time the BS gets to become fact, and gets spread further afield.
BS is BS................Dont think it really matters if its suggesting that very thin autolube oils are superior to proper pre-mix products, for use in pre-mix bikes, or claiming that a non streamlined bike with 20bhp will go 100mph?
Lol..................your trolls are at least entertaining, as they seem so completely divorced from fact!
I worked as a bike mechanic for about 10 years, and cant say I ever tested a bike with 30bhp which would do 100mph, and would be very interested to learn how this would be achieved outside the land of the troll?
Did you have a dyno? I get the feeling they didn't make 30 HP AFTER you worked on them.And if you're talking old Trumps and Notones , they weren't 30HP. If you want to argue , we'll argue.
If bikes with 30bhp wont go 100mph, please explain why those with 10bhp less will do 100mph?
At the same time explain in clear and concise terms, why choosing to use very thin autolube oil in pre-mix race bikes, is in some way better than using a proper pre-mix product?
Gearing and RPMs can have something to do with it. Some bikes will have a higher top speed with shorter gearing and some will pull taller gearing. As far as oils , NOBODY has said BETTER.
Jeebus H Crimney.
The 'I have the biggest dick' Fu is strong in this thread. Probably needs to be moved downstairs