Yamaha missing the party?

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  1. hambone650rider

    hambone650rider Been here awhile

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    The question I have is about the Yamaha xt660,xt660x,tenere660... From what I have researched the motorcycles are great powerful fuel injected and reliable.. SO why wouldn't Yamaha bring these motorcycles to the US? From other things I have read the dual sport motorcycle is fastest growing style of motorcycle sold today. So I think Yamaha is missing the party. Just wishing I had the option.
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  2. SkiBumBrian

    SkiBumBrian DualSport Crazy !!

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    You and thousands of others... Have you seen the new Maico dual sport? Barely over 200lbs and over 80 hp.... Can't get them here either.... I think it is EPA politics...
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  3. john_aero

    john_aero Long timer

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    well we wonder why klr not over here

    but yes very strange why the newer single cylinder trail/adv bike is only EU when perfectly suited usa trails and would boot aftermarket supplies
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  4. shep546

    shep546 Been here awhile

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    I want a bike that is around 600cc
    under 300 lbs
    fuel injected
    e starter and kicker
    without a KTM price tag :clap
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  5. hambone650rider

    hambone650rider Been here awhile

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    I wonder what the 660s would be. Priced at here? Maybe they would not be competitive I don't know, but I do know it will not be priced as cheap as KLR or Dr650. Me myself would pay more for the more modern bike. ( now don't get pissed cause I own a dr650) but I think the Yamaha up To date. Not 20 year old but proven design.
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  6. OrangeYZ

    OrangeYZ Been here awhile

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    Talk is cheap, and when people actually vote with their wallets, those motorcycles sit on showroom floors and the message manufactures receive is "We don't want those."
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  7. HandKPhil

    HandKPhil Been here awhile

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    Maybe Yamaha feels they got stung when they had the XT600 for sale here, and not too many people bought them? IIRC, that was a 330 pound-ish bike with about 44 horsepower. If I found one in good shape today, I might still be tempted to buy one. Last year was '94 or '95, if I recall correctly.
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  8. road_apple

    road_apple Hit the Trail

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    Yamaha's brilliant marketing strategy...you want most what you can't have. Maybe they think they're over-extended with what they already have in the market place.
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  9. shep546

    shep546 Been here awhile

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    I just looked up the stats on the xt660... doesn't look that impressive... looks to be more of a street bike that you could take down some dusty roads.
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  10. NesquikNinja

    NesquikNinja Long timer

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    Dual sports make up a tiny percent of the US market as far as new bike sales go.

    Money is the name of the game, and bikes made for use in the US are often more expensive than elsewhere, thus meaning they have to put more money into R&D on any given model to sell a relatively smaller quantity to our cruiser and sport bike dominated market.

    Or maybe Im wrong lol
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  11. Kommando

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    I'm not impressed either, with the XT660Z Tenere...for dualsport duty out in the boonies and hooligan commuter duty in town. The DR650SE is a cheaper and simpler bike that is 75lb or so lighter, and it can make considerably more power than the XTs with a few goodies from Procycle. It also isn't covered in fragile plastic. The Terra 650 is already more powerful than the XT660s, and doesn't cost a whole lot more than the DR, in either weight or $$. For that kind of weight penalty, the Tenere should be a powerful multi-cylinder, like the F800 or Tiger 800XC...or Yamaha should shave at least 50lb off of it.

    I can't find much for specs on the XT660R version, but it looks interesting for dualsporting close to civilization, and it's close to the Terra for weight. I wish we DID have this option in motos in the states. Yamaha also offers a 50L topcase in Europe that I've never seen here.

    For long-distance bombing, everyday commuting, and usually mild offroad closer to civilization though, the Tenere version has over 3qts of oil capacity, over 6 gal of fuel capacity, dual front discs with ABS available, a fairing, and EFI. If you're not going into the rough stuff where you're likely to dump it repeatedly, it might work well for you.
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  12. cognugget

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    Yamaha does well in the small dual sport market with the wr250r/x and the xt250 and the tw200.:clap
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  13. BIG ED XT FAN

    BIG ED XT FAN Long timer

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    Well, We can write to them, talk to them, Dream about then.
    But the only thing to do is Move!!!! Thats it! Sell off every thing and move over seas!! Life is short lets move!!!! We can get a group rate to move.:eek1:lol3:lol3:lol3:clap:freaky
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  14. eakins

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    It's only 1 country over. Puerto Vallarta is an awesome place to live! I was there for a year, last year.
    http://www.yamaha-motor.com.mx/xt660tenere.html
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  15. eakins

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    you can sign the petition and try yourself
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641304
    but don't hold your breath. even when 660s are in the US, the Yamaha corp guys have no interest even looking at the bike again. cruisers guy run the show. the bike has been around since 08. it is not going to happen. most all of us gave up already.
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  16. hambone650rider

    hambone650rider Been here awhile

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    Fun discussion , I really want the terra but started thinking where is the compitition for it? I have rode the terra so compitition. Dr...nope, klr... Nope.ktm well yeah but damned expensive nope. Yamaha didn't know haven't cant ride it or own it. It's all good rode the dr today lots of wheelies sliding and raising Cain,ended up stuck on a downed tree for 15 mins( I need to be working out not playing on adv) hell of a fun day!!
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  17. Gryphon12

    Gryphon12 Long timer

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    Sorry I missed the first page of this thread. Are you seriously asking this question AGAIN???

    The bike is manufactured in ITALY. Importing it here will cost over $8,000

    - It is heavy, is a 5-speed, with a very robust but old engine design.

    - With those specs, it is just too expensive to sell here. No one will buy it at the price required for Yamaha to make a profit.

    JMo raced one in Europe with tons of custom modifications, including a full KTM / WP front end. Worked well. But it was still heavy. Adequate for a dual sport? Yes. Better than a KLR? Probably. Worth $8,000 in the US. No. And I believe that JMo has moved on to lighter bikes for long-distance racing.
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  18. john_aero

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    i know when i was looking buying one my old bmw dakar was bit lighter and few more hp.

    in fact tenere is road legal here for learners.

    but i do know people say they perform better than they look on paper.

    if going new id pick it over the new g650 models bmw are making in china
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  19. Grreatdog

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    The UK price translates to almost $9800 for a bike that, on paper, looks like a slightly hotrodded KLR650. Even if you could roll one out the door for a grand or so less, that just doesn't sound like a formula for success in the US. At those kinds of numbers I am bringing a 690 home not a 400 pound, less than 50 hp utility bike. If I did want a bike like that I would just buy the KLR or Terra and bank the savings. I don't know if Yamaha is missing the party, but I don't think we are by not getting that particular bike.
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  20. jon_l

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    My impression is that bikes are cheaper in the US than in anywhere else. Certainly Canada, Australia & NZ, and Europe pay a lot more. I don't know of any place in the world, comparing the same bike, where they are as cheap as the US.
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