Yamaha TDM Riders

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by BuellDualSport, Sep 28, 2005.

  1. nav18tor

    nav18tor Been here awhile

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    Now has Fuel (a UK Exhaust maker) cans which give a "proper twin sound", Givi panniers to match the top box, Garmin Zumo 550 hard wired, Optimate connection under the seat, air box mod re-established as supplying dealer had disabled,

    Yet to fit
    1. Tutoro chain oiler
    2. Crash posts
    3. K&N air filter
    4. Pro-Grip rally grips

    Loving it so far, a little short of power but at 58 (UK) MPG driven fast, I am not going to complain






  2. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    Ah, but, you can use all of it. They have a very high average speed.....:D
  3. nav18tor

    nav18tor Been here awhile

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    Fuel cans, now supplemented by a K&N Filter, seems to help smooth things out

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  4. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    My 8 fiddly is a very happy bunny with aftermarket pipes. Kerkers, loud but good, pulls from nothing, no flat spot & I never really use the top end so no loss that I'm aware of.
  5. OldLevi

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  6. KaiserQuasar

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    I'm about ready to pull the trigger on a 1992 TDM. I've always loved the look of these bikes and the jack-of-all-trades, master of none kind of design. I'm fairly new to motorcycles and this would be my first relatively powerful road bike. My current XT600 could probably use a rebuild and I'm looking for something to use as a reliable commuter in the city and a weekend warrior capable of some logging roads when the weather permits. The bike is in pristine condition, has 24k on the odometer, has good tires, and the carbs/emulsion tubes were redone this summer. I'm thinking I won't get it for less than 3,400 which seems pretty steep but opportunities on these are few and far between so I might bite the bullet anyway. Anybody have any thoughts to sway me?

    Thanks!
  7. Diravi

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    Hello TDM fellows! I'm considering getting a TDM850, had a DL650 for 60k kms, now riding on dirt on a Honda XR400. I almost got a '01 TDM850 with 13k kms, looked like it was taken out of the dealer yesterday, but someone was quicker. Then after browsing through ads, I realized I love the mk1 looks, with the twin round headlights. So now I'm looking at a '95, 30k kms, in great shape, looks like this:

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    Can someone please make a comparison between the mk1 and mk2 models? I know the technical and spec changes, please let me know how they feel compared to each other. Like engine smoothness, throttle response, sound, comfort, handling/cornering, etc.

    Many thanks in advance, looking forward to join the club soon :)
  8. omeoxlv

    omeoxlv Been here awhile

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    Can someone please make a comparison between the mk1 and mk2 models? I know the technical and spec changes, please let me know how they feel compared to each other. Like engine smoothness, throttle response, sound, comfort, handling/cornering, etc.

    Many thanks in advance, looking forward to join the club soon :)[/QUOTE]


    The sensible thing would be to join carpe-tdm.net and ask there. You will be very impressed with the response. They dont have anything else to do in the uk, the weather is always too shit for riding.
    Cheers Graeme
  9. Diravi

    Diravi Adventurer

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    Thanks, Graeme, good advice, already got a few good replies there.
  10. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    The sensible thing would be to join carpe-tdm.net and ask there. You will be very impressed with the response. They dont have anything else to do in the uk, the weather is always too shit for riding.
    Cheers Graeme[/QUOTE]



    :roflHarsh, very harsh.
    I've seen at least one recent photo on carpe where it wasn't raining. I think the snapper was touring in Europe, though.

    Some consider the MK I to be the original & best, as Yamaha intended. MK II had the crank throw changed to 270o so it sounds like a Doocati.
  11. idalzate

    idalzate n00b

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    Present My TDM in colombian mountains....
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  12. rackam_le_rouge

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  13. TDMTAM

    TDMTAM Been here awhile

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  14. OhCrap

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    It's been a while since I posted, but I finally had some allroad tires mounted & felt it was time to report my findings here.

    I went with a Pirelli MT90 Scorpion A/T on the front and a Pirelli Scorpion Trial on the back. I could only find an 'S' speedrating for the front and a 'W' in the back btw.

    The rear seems to be a good one, although one has to question if these can really be called 'allroad'. It looks and handles a lot like my old BT0023 to be honest. The front however is dreadful. I mean, it handles well and seems to grip every time it needs to and goes everywhere I tell it to, but in a straight line it constantly feels like it's looking where it wants to go, and as soon as I lean over a bit to turn it feels like the tire is fighting me and wants to stay upright.

    Is this normal behavior for an allroad tire, or did I end up with a rear tire after all and does it need to be mounted in the opposite direction perhaps? All I have to compare so far are my BT0023 so I'm not really sure what to expect to be honest.

    Another big fail is that the MT90 is to high and touches the front fender :baldy

    I'm riding without a fender at the moment (didn't want to risk shattering when a big rock gets caught in the deep thread) until I have some time to make a few brackets to raise the fender just a bit, if I decide to leave the tire on the bike that is. Did anyone else that mounted a front tire with an 80 wall have to do this too?

    The front did handle like a dream in wet sand and muddy grass btw, I've yet to try some wet tarmac.

    edit: Crap. I just did a search and it seems the MT90 A/T only comes in 21" as a front tire, so I guess I did end up with a rear and it should have been mounted in reverse direction. Does anyone know if I can just take out the wheel and flip it over or that I need to have the tire removed and put on again to reverse the direction?
  15. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    You would have to reverse the tire.

    I'm running an MT90 front on my MKII, 110 - 80 / 18. No issues with clearance. Or grip. It was a little disconcerting at first coming from a BT 021, slower turn in, well, barge like in comparison & feeling the blocks creep turning at lower speeds. I use a skerrick more counter steering on the road for snappier turn. The rear is a Shinko 705 so I'm not going to blame the Pirelli, the tires have slightly different profiles so compromise is inevitable.
    I'm very impressed with the grip wet & dry.I practice motogymkhana & my braking technique on a regular basis & can happily say it sticks like glue. Very secure on gravel too.

    No chicken strips.........
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  16. OhCrap

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    Ok, it's back to the bike shop tomorrow then, thank you. They better not charge me to have it reversed though, the amateurs. I have a feeling I might like this tire a lot better once it rotates in the other direction :rofl

    I have a 120-80-18 btw. It only touches the fender on the rear edge of the fender (the lowest point of the fender when it's mounted) and if I press it together a bit by the side edges of the fender then the tire clears perfectly by about 5mm. I think that if I'll just try to shape a little stainless steel clamp so it'll clip on there and keep it in slightly rounder shape I may not even have to raise the fender at all.

    I'll report back as soon as I've tried some things :thumb
  17. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    They are an "all road" tire, jack of all trades but master of none. Having said that I ride gnarly gravel roads & delightfully twistie tarmac, neither of which see me get much over 120 kmh & the tire is faultless. They have a high silica component for wet grip & I was astonished at how hard the tire bit doing emergency stops in the rain.
    But. Tires are subjective, I love BT 021's but a lot of riders dislike them, I've had the pegs down in the rain with them but others say they are skittish.
    Hope you get things sorted & get your bike dirty!
  18. OhCrap

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    I'm happy to report the MT 90 A/T is a much better ride now it's turning in the right (wrong?) direction :clap

    It vibrates a bit more in the handlebars at certain speeds and it moves a bit more when turning in a corner compared to the BT's, but nothing too annoying or scary and it never feels unsafe or anything. I think we'll get along just fine, this MT and I :thumb

    I love the BT's too btw. A lot of the dutch TDM riders think it's a bit too stiff and prefer the Scorpion MP3 over the BT0023 (successor of the 0021) but I favor it myself. Another plus for me is that they are very forgiving when you're as lazy as I am with checking the tire pressure, I wonder how that'll go with my new setup :lol2

    I've also found some cheap and easy to modify brackets to raise the front fender a bit so I'll probably go that route. I saw some pictures of others who had done that with their 900's when browsing to this thread again last night and I really liked the look of it.

    I'll shoot some pics of the front and back once I've get it done.
  19. GreeKKTiNoS

    GreeKKTiNoS Been here awhile

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  20. gateman

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    Something worth a try with an all roads tyre.

    I had added wider bars while my bike was still on the standard Tyre and noticed the greater leverage made the bike react in a turn faster. To fast for my liking. Once I put the Avons on things cam back to normal somewhat but road input was increased back up the bike and also vibes . I turned up my own heavier bar end weights about half again as heavy as the stick ones and this gave me the smooth feel of the original bike in stock trim.

    So maybe a play with heavier bar end weights might help.