Yamaha TDM Riders

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by BuellDualSport, Sep 28, 2005.

  1. OhCrap

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    Cool video Tinos, it even has my bike's twin in there! Complete with the right color Bagster and everything. Not sure why that guy was getting naked for at the end though :rofl


    My bike came with wider and straighter off-road handle bars Gateman. Luckily, because I really dislike the angle of the original handle bars on the TDM. I'm a fairly small bloke so I raised the handle bars slightly and made them come a little backwards too which made the riding position extremely comfortable for me. I've been having some back problems the last few years, but somehow that never bothers me when riding. I get sore and tired when driving a cage much quicker strange enough.

    But I should probably tighten up the front end first before playing with anything else. I have a 2003 with just over 30.000km on it now and it still has the original factory oil in the the front end, meaning it has never been changed. It's a bit spongy up there right now. I want to upgrade to Hyperpro springs but I just got new tires, chain and sprockets, break-pads, fresh fluids, filters and Iridium spark plugs, I gotta spread things out a little for budgetary reasons unfortunately.
  2. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    Investing in the bits which make the tires work betterer is paramount. Power is nothing without control. I';m in the same boat, tired & saggy front & back.
    Bit like a mid 40's girlfriend and the same rules apply. If you got a good one, invest. Good ones are very hard to replace.
  3. OhCrap

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    It's not that bad yet on mine luckily, mr. Krumpet. Many riders wouldn't even notice it yet probably. But no cash means no parts, so it'll just have to wait a little longer I'm afraid.

    In the mean time I'm having so much fun on these tires!

    It's like I found a whole new barrel of confidence or something. I was flying through city traffic like when I was 16 again and on my good old MT50 today. It feels a bit difference of course, but I really don't feel I'm missing any road performance at all on these. The Scorpion Trail on the back seems to perform even better then the BT0023 on the road to be honest. And even though it has a 'w' speed-rating I don't have any problems turning it on even on these colder days. I hope it'll rain soon so I can get a feel for them in the wet too.

    The brackets I had to raise the front fender turned out to be just a little to long btw, so I'm still riding without one for now. I don't mind, it's dry this week and it looks rather cool to be honest :evil

    I'll already got some new ones though, I just have to drill out the holes for the bolts a bit more and round the edges a bit and then it should fit.
  4. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    A word of caution Oh crap.... I had a decent run on Sunday on some deliciously twisty roads. I ended up tail end charlie to some sprot bike riders & the pace crept up... The road we were on is not fast, some of the corners are sign posted 35 kmh, most are 55 to 65 kmh. You can usually double that if can see far enough through the corner so we weren't fast enough to overwhelm my suspension but I did end up feeling the MT 90 push out on a couple of corners & had the rear shinko 705 chattering a couple of times on exit. Nothing dramatic but enough to show me they don't have the outright grip of a sports touring tire when pushed. At least they talked to me which is a big thing. I ended up getting my weight further forward into the corners & moving to the inside of the bike slightly, by no means knee down or poser though, just using my weight better. I wasn't scraping the foot rests either, something I used to do on the 021's.
    I would say they have 80 - 85% of the grip compared to a dedicated road tire & a flatter profile so not quite as much lean.
  5. OhCrap

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    In all honesty I haven't pushed them that hard yet Krumpet. I think I did about a 100kms on them now, and half of that was with the front rear tire rolling in the wrong direction :rofl

    I still have almost an inch of unused rear-tire left on each side even.

    The roads here really don't allow you to go all out this time a year, with wet leaves everywhere and mud tracks on the tarmac from farm traffic. I did have the front step out on me once though, when I finally found a clean fast corner. Nothing to dramatic however, perhaps an inch or two and it got right back on track again afterwards. And I think it was my own fault to be honest, I was a bit jerky on the handle bars for some reason. Perhaps I'm a bit of an odd rider, but rear wheel slides often scare me more then front wheel slides when they come unexpected. My driving style usually doesn't seem to require a lot from the front end of a bike for some reason. Granted, the first owner is responsible for half of it, but I made that BT0021 last the full 31.500km the bike has done so far, and the same goes for the front brake pads. I wish was so easy on the rear too :(

    Perhaps that's the reason the BT0021 wasn't as responsive as it once was though, I did just take off a 9 year old tire after all... :eek1
  6. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    Whoah! that is epic, I've never got close to 10k from a front, 6k & the rear is stuffed! Admittedly we have very course granite chip seal on the roads down here. My UK TDM gets better tire mileage.
  7. OhCrap

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    Yeah, I wish I knew how I did it. I always have some chicken strips on the front too, yet never on the rear. I thought that was normal until I saw your photo, lol. I'm not exactly slow though :confused

    This one was a bit extreme but I still always get somewhere between 18.000 and 26.000km out of a front tire before I get up to the wear marks. Perhaps I learned to ride this way subconsciously because I thought myself how to ride on a souped up Honda MT50 with a terrible front tire that I never replaced @ 16 (I spend two years on that thing!). The front break on that bike was terrible too, so I guess I just learned how to make due with a really good rear brake by necessity. I don't think my riding style has changed all that much since then. Well, except that I learned how to stop crashing all the time luckily.

    6K on the rear is pretty average for me too, if there are no track days involved anyway. I didn't change the last BT0023 until it got to 10K though, but it should've been changed much earlier and was a slick when it came off. I took about 2000kms to long doubting which tires to replace them with.

    I don't know if you've ever rode through NL, but our roads are pretty smooth in general from what I've seen so far (most of the EU, but I've never been off the continent yet).
  8. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    Aaah, the chicken strips or lack of on the front are a bit mis-leading. Firstly the profiles are mis-matched so i run out of rubber on the front before the rear & the biggest thing... I practice motogymkhana, lots of full lock & lean turning, scrubs the front in beautifully.
  9. OhCrap

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    Ah, that makes sense yeah, haha.

    Does anyone know a good way to remove these shields from my exhaust cans by the way? I've considered swapping sides so the logo would be on the inside thus less visible, but I think I've seen a few of these Lasers without logo so I'm guessing there is a better way to get them out of sight?

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    GreeKKTiNoS Been here awhile

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    GreeKKTiNoS Been here awhile

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  13. Harvey Krumpet

    Harvey Krumpet Been here awhile

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    Hope you don't mind Greekk but i posted your links on Carpe.
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    GreeKKTiNoS Been here awhile

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    no prob...

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    alexk243 Been here awhile

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    Just pulled my engine out of my 1992 TDM 850. Made a time lapse of the process. Also filmed with a helmet camera all the steps, but havent edited it yet, not sure if that is something that people would want to see or not.

    TDM 850 Engine removal Link
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    Well done! :clap
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    That was pretty amusing :clap
  18. Rezy

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    Dear fellow TDM Riders,

    My TDM 850 is back home in India and now back in Muscat, Oman i brought a SuperTenere 1200, i guess i am the first buyer of SuperTen in the GCC, the Gulf.

    I have only rode for about 100 Kms so far, below are the inputs.

    1. Bigger, Taller, Heavier and wider than the TDM 850
    2. Seating position is high, good when the bike is running, not good when you are on uneven surface as im 5'9 and not able to touch my any single foot fully even in lower stock seat configuration.
    3. Fuel consumption is better, (may be my TDM 850 was almost 12 years old)
    4. Cornering is better in TDM 850 (guess, i have just ridden only 100 kms on SuperTen, may need more time)
    5. Definetly feels king on the road comapred to the feeling u get in TDM 850
    6. Yes, the vibrations are still there at speeds over 120 Kmph
    7. Lots of electics and electronics compared to TDM 850, but is all that needed? this depends upon your riding preference, the lesser the electronics the more offroad, dust, slush and water capable..
    8. Better wind protection than stock TDM 850 screens

    I am yet to do full technical analysis of the bike, i shall update if any shortly. below are some pics.
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  19. SlipChip

    SlipChip Adventure Commuter

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    Any love left over for the 3vd?
    Excluding the Gondwanalanders, :huh, what are you doing with your bike this winter?
    I am going to pull the swingarm, clean off swarf, check/grease bearings, replace chain, sprockets, tire, etc...
    :arg No centerstand sux... portable swingarm stand doesn't help. :pissed
    Gonna build a stand that bolts into peg mounts.:deal
  20. Backonthebike

    Backonthebike Giddy up

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    That's easy to answer Chip.
    It's 34 degrees C here today (About 95 F).
    I'm gonna ride the tits off it.