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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Sock Monkey, Apr 7, 2008.
Yeah I struggle with the stem on the front because so narrow.
well honda did not out do yamaha...no surprise
well maybe a lower seat height.
Oops! I kind of like it, but not for me. My girlfriend has an XT225 and I have been wondering what a suitable replacement for it would be besides a newer Super Sherpa. I wonder if it is coming to the states because it doesn't look like it will to me at this time.
Well, I won't say Honda didn't outdo Yamaha until I see the price, weight, and fuel capacity. Its conceivable that it ends up costing somewhere around the current CRF230L's $4999 (which is beyond absurd for that bike) and the CBR250R's $3999 there's a good chance of it selling really really well. Also, very interesting to see both KTM and Honda playing in the small dual sport market along with Yamaha and Kawasaki. Maybe this means a new DRZ400S or DR sub 650 is coming soon too?
This pic of it dressed up in full offroad mode looks interesting...
and about $4,500 later, I would rather have my blue bike
Competition IS good!
1) how much it costs
2) how much it weighs
3) maintenance intervals - hard to match the WR250, but the CRF250R/X with race-bike maintenance schedules has no appeal.
At $5,000 max MSRP and 250lbs with CRF230 maintenance requirements, it would get my attention.
Today I replaced my first Pirelli MT43 DOT trials rear tire on the WR-R with another just like it. The mileage was almost exactly 2,800 miles and it could've probably gone a couple hundred more.
But before mounting up the fresh meat I thought I'd finish her off with one last off-road test. McCoy Mountain Road is an old roadbed about 25 miles from here that without being worked since the 1930s has become a fairly rocky and steep piece of roadbed, usually with a few downed trees thrown in to make things more interesting.
The MT43 has been a great tire and the most amazing part is that as its worn the handling characteristics haven't changed enough so I can tell much difference between when it was new almost 2,800 miles ago and today. The previous four rear tires on the bike were all D606s and I averaged changing them at 2,500 miles (high of 2,800 and low of 2,156). However, each of these 606s was pretty much useless for anything but street or easy gravel duty after around 1,500 miles.
The entire time running the Pirelli I've run a cushy and tacky 12 psi (with rim locks). The Dunlops' pressures varied from 18 to 32 depending on which tire it was and where I was riding.
Yesterday I did about 30 miles of fast (50-60 mph) gravel FS roads on the Pirelli which had around 2,600-2,700 miles on it and had none of the skating or wandering I always seemed to experience with the Dunlops with a thousand less miles on them.
This morning I measured the center knobs on the MT43 and they had about 1/16th inch remaining of the original 3/8ths inch tread depth. I figured if I really wanted to push it I could eek another couple of hundred from the tire to reach the 3K plateau, but at the risk of getting a flat from a large thorn or some such. Already the tires have outlived the average for the 606s by 300 miles.
This video tells the story...
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The only problem spot I came to - the downed tree at a diagonal to the roadbed - a new and sharp knobby wouldn't have done any better.
Below are some other pix of the two tires...
The old MT43 just before riding in the above video (about 2,770 miles on it):
Old and new tires side-by-side:
I'm thinking this will be my DS tire for the WR unless I know I'll be riding in deep mud all day. For that a knobby would be superior I believe. But for nearly all the riding I do this tire is just about perfect.
Nice report GSBS on the MT43 thanks.
I can see this tyre is probably ideal for our lightweight low power bike. Sophisticated carcass and compound, classic tread. Doesn't look quite as sexy as a rock slinging 606 but when you're looking at a 3000mile DS trip ahead it makes a lot of comfortable sense. Worth thinking about.
I ran out of gas today while on the highway. Luckily, the bike is light and I was one mile from a gas station. I got 27 miles from the time the low fuel light came on. Is that about normal for speeds in the 70-80 MPH range with stock equipment?
What's the seat on your bike ??? Looks pretty comfortable.
In my experience yes.
Rick Mayer seat
I use a Flatlands kit (tail rack, radiator guard, skid plate). 30L dry bag fits nicely w/ratchet straps.
The 15" tire iron thread is here or search The Garage for "tap a bolt"
thanks for pics. I use one on my 450 exc, why am i on here.. i have yammie lust in my heart for the 250.... perhaps some day.
My experience with the MT is also very favorable as i am not a ROOSTafarian. Thanks for all the valuable info... This is a great thread!
J you need to buy a WR. You can try mine anytime.
I've got about 3800 miles on my WR and it just started making a loud squealing noise which appears to be coming from the lower cases. After reading reports of crank bearings going out, this is not making me happy. Unfortunately I am not under warranty any longer due to a deployment 6 months after purchasing this bike.
It's the rubber on the rear sprocket. Lube the fuck out of it, cover it in mud, or change the sprocket.