Yamaha WR250R Mega Thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Sock Monkey, Apr 7, 2008.

  1. GotMojo?

    GotMojo? Long timer

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    Thats what I tried to tell the guy, but he insisted it needs it. Really makes you wonder what exactly they do on a 600 mile service, if anything? I just want the bike gone over... already told them to skip the oil/filter change (since I do that) and focus on making sure everything is tight, brakes adjusted, and stuff I don't feel comfortable doing.

    I think I'll tell him to skip the valve check.
  2. Krabill

    Krabill Long timer

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    That's funny. The ONLY thing they do on a 600 mile service is an oil change :lol3

    You're going to be paying them to set your bike in their shop for three days and not even touch it.
  3. edteamslr

    edteamslr Been here awhile

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    Friendly advice - get the service manual off the WR forum and read the 600mile service. Only then will you appreciate that you are being way too damn cautious and hence are being ripped off. Tell the dealer to do some f'ing work and stop shafting honest god-fearing punters.
  4. GotMojo?

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    I bought the service manual. There's some stuff in there for 600 miles that I don't really feel comfortable doing, and thats why I wanted to take it in. I do the oil changes, chain adjustments, stuff like that... but when it comes to adjusting the clutch, brakes, steering bearings, and stuff like that, I don't really feel comfortable in my abilities to do that, so I figured I'd take the bike in and have them do it. Plus, they supposedly go over the bike and check the torque for all major nuts/bolts. I just wonder sometimes if they do that stuff like they are supposed to.
  5. Krabill

    Krabill Long timer

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    In my experience . . . no. They change the oil and let your bike sit for a couple days, then call you to tell you it's done and the valves looked fine (never even having opened up the motor). If you told them not to change the oil, they won't even touch your bike.
  6. Mr. Fisherman

    Mr. Fisherman PROUD 2B Riff Raff!

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    The ONLY way to know it is done right is to do it yourself or watch someone else do it to learn how.

    They don't call them stealers for nothing.

    None of it is really all that hard and in the long run you need to know how to do these all yourself.

    If I were closer I would help you out. I bet if you hosted a work day at your garage and funded pizza and beverages you would have volunteers to help show you the ropes.
  7. NeilW

    NeilW 2-up Adventure Touring

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    Mostly they type up your invoice and they charge you for that under "shop supplies".

    If it makes you feel any better, the technicians aren't making any money off the deal. A case in point, I just got my GYRT tail rack, a small story in itself. The point is, the very well detailed instructions state that installation time is .3 hours. I'm not exactly fast in the garage but I can usually turn a wrench and screwdriver without hurting myself or breaking parts. I did the install in 1.2 hours. Granted that was my first time on that task and I'm not done until the tools are put away and the workspace cleaned up. But if I was a good Yamaha tech, I still think I would have lost money on that job if I was only getting paid .3 hours for it. Anyone whose ever done dealer warranty work knows that deal.
  8. GotMojo?

    GotMojo? Long timer

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    Thats what I was afraid of. I wonder if I'd be better off taking the bike in and instead of the "600 mile service" just give them a list of things I want done (brakes adjusted, clutch adjusted, cables lubed, steering bearings checked, major bolts torqued). Do you think they'd be more likley to do that, or just skip it and let the bike sit?
  9. Krabill

    Krabill Long timer

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    Yes.



    Really . . . I don't know. You might have a good shop. The odds are against it, but eh, just maybe.
  10. kyns

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    If the 600 mile service is not needed to keep the warranty, don't take it there at all. I had my oil changed at 1000 km, to keep the warranty, i stood there the whole time, making sure they did it...

    You can easily do all the things you listed yourself. If not, ask help from us. ..all you really need is an oil change...
  11. GotMojo?

    GotMojo? Long timer

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    I do most of that stuff myself. I also go over the bike before I ride it and check various things. I just thought on a new bike, it might be good to take it in and have an "expert" check over some of the things I'm not comfortable with (clutch, brakes, swingarm bushings, etc). Maybe that's the problem though... these so called "experts", in most cases, don't do what they are supposed to do, so why bother taking it in. Atleast that's the general consensus I'm getting...
  12. Nice_Rumble

    Nice_Rumble Long timer

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    Just use common sense. Why would the clutch, brakes, and swingarm bushings need adjusting at 600 miles? I haven't touched any of those components in 6000 miles. It's a friggen Yamaha not a ......:D
  13. GotMojo?

    GotMojo? Long timer

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    You're probably right. I guess I just wanted the bike checked over to make sure things were OK before the next major service. Maybe I'm OK though.... just wasn't sure.
  14. Chadx

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    I agree with the rest on skipping the 600 mile service at the dealer. Look it over yourself. Even if you don't retorque everything, put a hand on everything looking for loose or lost bolts, etc. If you are doing an oil change, air filter cleaning, and chain tensioning, you are already doing nearly everything that this bike needs for 26,600 miles. Just keep an eye on everything. When it comes time, if you don't want to do the brake fluid change, have them do it and at the same time, look it over. Same for when you finally have to do the valve check.

    If your dealership is saying a 600 mile valve check is needed, they are probably just going by what they are used to. Ask them to look it up in the service manual (mention you own a copy) and show you where it says to check the valves at 600 miles. Smile politely when they fritter around and can't find it. :D
  15. Chadx

    Chadx my toot toot

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    I got a chuckle out of that. Thanks! And so true. I've NEVER had a fuel pump problem on my carburated bikes. Ha.
  16. HardWorkingDog

    HardWorkingDog Harvey Mushman

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    Whew :D

    I didn't use any smilies...hoping SOMEONE laughed :eek1
  17. scottmac

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    Just wondering if your dealer has a WR250F 600 mile service stuck in his mind
    rather than a WR250R....
  18. Krabill

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    I doubt it. My dealer tried to tell me I'd need a 600 mile valve adjustment on mine until I pointed it out in the manual. Even after that he wanted to argue some more. I left :lol3
  19. z@ch

    z@ch Turn it up to eleven

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    most bikes do require a valve check at the first service. I think the dealer/tech is just following standard (or preferred) protocol.

    I knew a guy that ran an independent BMW auto service shop and he changed oil on new beemers every 3k miles even though the manual said every 10k was fine.
  20. bash3r

    bash3r I ain't no DingWeed

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    Valve check? :dunno

    Checking your bike is really easy to do after you give it a good cleaning!! :hide