Yamaha XC155 (SMax) thread

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Chillis, Aug 28, 2014.

  1. Battlephobe

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    I can’t say I have ever rode a bike with a car tire. I like hard cornering and quick turn ins (Hence why I swapped out the stock tires for Michelin power pures the moment I got my smax home). A car tire isn’t suited for that.


    Like I said earlier. I used to laugh when I see a “darkside” bike. But I can see why they do it. They don’t corner hard and they get a tire that will last 40,000 km.
  2. Nick113

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    Then if you lean in such extreme that you had to remove a center stand because it was scraping, and now you're scraping a plastic... it is obviously car tire isn't for you. But don't forget that very large segment of bike riders don't ride the way you do. In fact, I think most don't... Most touring, cruising, scooter sightseeing, etc, etc... Most don't scrape even pegs! I live in NYC, where do I scrape my pegs?
    I mean you need to approach this realistically... what you do is fairly small segment of bikers do... Most of us using bikes for commuting and touring. Twisties are not a priority. So in this case, wider contact patch, better riding in wet conditions and shorter stopping distance IS a priority.
  3. Battlephobe

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    Isn’t that what I said from the get go about cruisers and their choice for a car tire and I reinterated that again in my next post.




    I don’t understand why u are saying I need to approach this realistically
  4. klaviator

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    I have ridden with some darksiders that cornered pretty hard. The tire didn't slow them down. None of them were on Sportbikes but one was on a V Strom. He eventually switched back to a MC tire not because the car tire limited his cornering but he just liked the feel of a MC tire better.

    I also live to ride twisty roads. I stick with conventional tire because feel is important to me. With a taller car tire cornering speed would be increased due to it being taller and offering more clearance. On the other hand acceleration and hill climbing speed would suffer.
  5. MarylandStrom

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    I think the general consensus is the car tire works for some, others it doesn't. I would hate to see this thread go in the direction of other motorcycle threads where personal opinion on riding dark side dominates the discussion. I feel like this crowd is above all that pettiness. And I am confident most here are far more open minded and tolerant of other's opinions.

    I don't have dark side experience, but it sure interests me. I hate changing tires considering how many miles I put on my bike every year.
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  7. Nick113

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    I see you've tried to remove stickers. lol. How did it go?
  8. Nick113

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    What's your annual mileage on Smax?
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    Brek81 Been here awhile

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    It's a typical yamaha sticker, need some citrus remover to actually get it off :p
  10. Battlephobe

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    Oil change light.

    Just changed my oil at 1100km. Does anyone know how to reset the oil change light ?


    Thanks


    Edit figured it out

    Select odo-trip-oilchange. Then hold reset.


    Oil change light was blinking so wasn’t clear that the selection was “oil change”
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  11. Kamaro68

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    Yep, :)
  12. klaviator

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    I put 700 miles on my Smax last weekend. I rode a lot of twisty mountain roads as well as some four lane and even a little interstate. Much of this was with my camping gear loaded on the bike. The Smax handled it all very well. I think Yamaha did a good job with the tire sizes and gearing. I think I'll just stick with tires in the stock sizes. Maybe if someone offered a 140/70-13 rear I'd try it but I'm not going to make any drastic changes. The combination of Avon AM63 up front and Michelin City Grip in the back seems to work well and seem to be wearing much better than the previous tires.

    [​IMG]
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  13. Battlephobe

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    This is awesome. How much do u think the smax can carry in gear or a good way to way to attach gear.

    What do u think max km on the smax would be a day?

    One of these years. Im thinking of doing an Alaska trip.

    Thinkingof carrying
    - Jerry can
    - tool kit
    - food/water
    - small Coleman propane cooker
    - clothes
    - tent
    - sleeping bag/pillow
    Etc
  14. klaviator

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    The Smax can carry a fair amount. I had a large dry bag bungeed to the rear seat, stuff under the seat and some small saddlebags. I kept the tail box empty so I had a place for my gloves and helmet when I stopped. I had a camera bag hanging on the grocery bag hook. If I needed to carry all the stuff you are talking about I'd get larger saddle bags and actually carry stuff in the tail box.

    [​IMG]

    My longest day on the Smax was around 300 miles but that is more a factor of the rider than the scooter.

    The details of my weekend trip is here: http://advrider.com/index.php?threa...-the-rocket-city.647784/page-76#post-34994830
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  15. Battlephobe

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    Wow. That’s what I’m talking about !!! Smax is all purpose scoot!!!!
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  16. Brek81

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    So.... has anyone attempted an iron butt ride on an smax?
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    So I think I earned my battle scooter general stripes yesterday. I drove for 8 hours on I75 from Orlando almost to Atlanta. A total of about 420 miles, 350 of those miles in a NONSTOP RAIN. My Joe Rocket rain suit didn't work quite as I had hoped. My jeans were soaked from the hip to the knees. I'm not even sure how they got wet. From what I can tell, the jacket extended well over the waist so I would think anything rolling off my back would have missed the butt area. My shirt was dry except at the neckline so it wasn't rolling off my helmet and down my back. And I didn't feel hot so I don't think it was sweat. Quite confused on the wet pants/undies. I learned the hard way that I should have bought waterproof gloves. My hands were withered pasty white lol. Other than that and a few brief moments where I began to hydroplane from badly rutted roads, the trip went off ok. No pics so far since it was raining the whole time. I was happy to throw the towel in when the rain started again, even though I was a little short of my goal of Atlanta. A hotel room never looked so good!
    The Smax ran like a top and kept up fine with traffic and going up hills. A few steep hills topped out at 71 indicated. Hit 83 a few times going down hills. A bit disappointed in the gas mileage as I hit a low of about 70mpg, although cross winds were a bit fierce on that tank. Not sure if that's from switching from a 10w-40 synthetic to a 15w-50 motorcycle synthetic oil.

    Question...is the oil screen bolt a reverse thread?? I changed the oil right before the trip and had difficulty removing the bolt. For the second time, I was turning it the wrong way! Looking at it, it seems counterintuitive. It looks like you are turning it clockwise to loosen it. At 1506 miles, there was one metal piece in the screen and a flake at the bottom of the bolt. Less debris then the first time but I hope that's the last time I see metal in that screen.
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  18. klaviator

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    I once got 69 MPG running at high speeds with the bike loaded with my camping gear so 70 sounds reasonable. Why did you switch to 15w-50? The motor was designed for 10w-40.
  19. ScooterJon

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    Well I switched because I didn't like how the 10w-40 said "high mileage" which means extra detergents and oil seal swelling chemicals. I just was concerned that might not be good for a new engine. And the manual doesn't specify an exact weight of oil. 15w-50 was on their graph as an option and since I live in a hot climate, I figured the higher temp coverage would be good especially since I tend to run the engine at max speeds a lot.
  20. Fiftygrit

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    Oh boy an oil thread hahaha I use shell 5-40 synthetic diesel oil, works for me, I get around 80 mpg on the highway, but that's averaging 60 to 65 mph.