Yamaha XT250 owners.....

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by bikeridermark, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. DesertDav

    DesertDav Adventurer

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    Guys, I value your opinion so here it goes:
    I've been researching what dual sport to buy for a few months now and I'm THIS close (I'm holding my fingers 1mm apart) to going to the Honda dealer this weekend and riding away with the new CRF250L. I'm inseam-challenged so, of course I've sat on EVERYTHING including scooters (don't shoot me!). I have to say for the money, I think the Honda wins over anything out there, at least on paper. But I feel the XT's seat combined with the low seat height was VERY comfy.
    So, should I buy the XT mainly for the ease I feel at stop lights? Or should I pay less and get (again, on paper and in a lot of people's opinions) the "better" bike?
    To be clear, I'd probably get either a slightly used or 2012 XT if I go the Yamaha route because at least THAT way, it'd be less expensive than the Honda. Yeah and the Honda's 8k mile maintenance intervals make it tough, too.
    HELP! In a nutshell again, comfort vs. potentially everything else?
    Thanks folks...I appreciate any input. And for those of you with your undies in a twist because I'm not yet an XT-250 owner, my apologies. ;-)
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  2. 150ron

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    If i was in the market for a 250cc dual sport, id get the xt250 all over again, i checked out the crf250l, and the xt is much more comfortable, a whole lot lighter and is truly a great bike for what it is,

    how tall are you?

    my xt250 by a new crf250l, when i went to check them out

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    The thing i miss the most about the xt250, was comfort, low seat height, and light weight. i just always wanted more power.
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  3. Rick

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    I think the Honda is a much better bike for single track where you could ride it quite fast and let the superior suspension help with the riding. The XT will go anywhere the Honda will, but just not as fast. What I like about the XT is it's pretty much bulletproof. Drop it and you don't puncture the rads.
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  4. DesertDav

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    150ron and klr, thanks for the input. I'm about 5'10". Inseam is around 29-30ish. Trust me, it's a freakin' comedy show watching me try to sit on an XR650L or a Husky! KTM? Fuggedaboutit!!! llol
    Honestly I probably WILL get the crf250l. BUT seriously, I like em both. I wish I could buy both. And like I said if I do get the Yamaha, I would probably save a couple grand by buying the slightly used one.
    And I mean is it just me, but the thought of paying another $1500 for dealer fees etc etc, on a $5,000 bike just turns my stomach. Just wish I could get the crf used.
    Oh well...I MIGHT wait til next weekend. I wanted the wife to go with me when I buy the thing. She doesn't care if she goes but she's been very supportive of the purchase and has been there the whole time I've been looking.
    Thank you once again and MAYBE I'll be back here letting you know I got the XT...you never know! :-)
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  5. The Cameraman

    The Cameraman Been here awhile

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    Hi mate,

    well I'm on my second XT250.

    I went to have a look at the Honda, noting that I can get a families discount but with my inside leg of 27.5 inch, there was no way in hell I could get on it!

    Serow's for me!

    Regards

    Reggie
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  6. Dualsport Chic

    Dualsport Chic Been here awhile

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    After owning an '08 XT250 for 4.5 years, I have to say, I really can't say much bad about it. Being an inseam challenged rider (29"), the bike fits me perfectly. Sure it won't have a ton of power (but sufficient for 90% of what most riders would dream of putting it through), and yeah, it tops out pretty quick (not comfortable over 70 mph per gps as odo. is 4.5 mph over on the bike). However, I've ridden mine over 14K, taken it on 300 mile plus days, and it has not yet failed to do what I have asked of it and I can be hard on a bike - I spent my youth at the MX track racing two strokes, then my teen years riding Enduro.

    There are several easy mods that can be done to the bike to make it truly off-road competent - tires, sprocket, suspension, etc. As for me - tires were a must, but outside of that and some farkling (bash plate, Barkbusters, HID headlight, GPS hookup, rear rack, luggage), it's a stock bike - and goes through single track, river crossings, & over jumps dutifully and nimbly.

    So many folks are focused on MORE POWER and MORE SPEED when that's not what good dirt riding entails - it is about skill, balance, judgement and finesse. So anyone thinking about buying this little bike - DO IT - despite the naysayers remarks that it's a 'novice' bike etc. Trust me, this little bike is a diamond in the rough. And, I haven't had a peep out of it yet as far as breakdowns, mechanical failures.
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  7. frog13

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    Well stated "chic"!.
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  8. JerryH

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    The 2012 and older XT250 is a better bike for a lot of reasons, but the biggest ones are because it is air cooled and still has a carb. The CRF may work fine new, but wait till a few years when that FI fails and it costs you big $$$ to get it fixed. The XT is also a far more traditional bike, and does not have the "transformer" look to it like the CRF. I have put a zillion miles (well, close) on an XT225, and expect the 250 to hold up just as well. IMO, Honda hasn't made a decent dual sport bike since their '80s XL models.
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  9. Blakebird

    Blakebird had to get a bike, had to paint it red

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    It's the way of the world, JerryH .... it won't be long before the XR650L won't meet emissions and noise regs, and will be forced to go liquid cooling and EFI.

    Some of my favorite offroad bikes have been the big, heavy, antique XR's....from the early 80's 500 to the 2000 XR600 that I turned into an XR628.

    But in quite a few ways, the liquid cooled XR650R is a superior bike, and I've owned three of them because they're so good.

    Styling is subjective - they didn't take a wild ass guess at what you call the 'transformer' look - that's what sells bike to the big market out there.

    And you are admittedly not part of that market - you're much happier soldiering on with old iron like a Vulcan 750, a couple generations old Gold Wing.... manufacturers do not design bikes for people that buy used bikes.
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  10. DesertDav

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    So that Honda quality is just a myth? Wow...good to know. As far as the "transformer" look, I've been researching what bike to buy for literally MONTHS, with the Honda leading the pack in appearance, in my opinion.
    As far as the FI failing argument goes, I've seen that in a couple different threads here. I don't get it...where does this fear come from? I've owned many cars/trucks with FI and it's never failed. In fact, I don't know ANYONE who's told me "guess what Dave, Had my (insert vehicle name here) in the dealership for a broken FI.
    You know something we all don't? Have YOU had an FI break?
    Sometimes change sucks, JerryH. I am SO with you on that one. But whether we want it or not, it happens. Alot of the time I feel "they" create change just for change's sake. But with everyone on these threads calling for the Japanese to improve their bikes to keep up with the rest of the manufacturers, what are they supposed to do?
    I'm all for some manufacturers keeping a basic,"old school" model for those who want to buy it. And, for the most part, for now, that's the XT. the DR, and the XR.
    All you who love your XT250's, I appreciate your love of the bike and it's pluses. I ended up finding and buying my new red "transformers" looking G650GS last sat.
    Led by JerryH, I'm sure you'll all now tell me what a crappy bike I bought.
    Fire when ready!
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  11. Rick

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    I have an XT250 and I bought it for the simplicity of air cooled engine and carb. I realize that not having the technology that say a WR250R has limits the XT and it's nowhere near as powerful as something comparable with updated technology. I also don't think there is anything wrong with it and improves bikes but I just simply don't want to worry about rads when I drop my bike. Even then it's pretty unlikely to damage a rad in a typical drop, but I ride by myself mostly and want to limit what makes me do the walk of shame. I personally would have waited to buy the 2013 with FI if I would have known one was coming out. I love the ability to not have to choke it or worry about jetting when going up into the mountains.

    Style is definitely a personal choice. Most people don't like the looks of the XT. I don't really either, but it checked enough of the boxes. I like the looks of the more modern bikes but that's really not important to me when choosing a bike.

    I agree that manufactures should offer both. Fancy and new along with old and proven. Both have their places and customers.

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  12. Warlord15

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    After having several bikes over the years, I believe that my 2009 xt250 yamaha is the most fun bike to own. Does everything I want it to do.
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  13. Warlord15

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    Fred, did you have to use the heat shield for you xt250 to protect you rear bag?
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  14. ZBone

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    Thinking about buying the girlfriend an XT250 to learn to ride on/keep around for a trail bike once she gains confidence and moves on to getting my G650GS as a hand me down. What are the top mods you guys have been doing? I'll definitely be throwing on a top/side rack so she can carry her own weight and a wind screen, but that's all I've figured so far.

    :ear
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  15. amaefm

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    Hey guys, what kind of oil have you been running in the XT? I noticed the manual says Yamalube 10W30 which is their watercraft oil, seems rather odd. I noticed that their performance motorsport oil seems to be the Yamalube 10W40, which has pictures of bikes and atvs on it which seems more like my bike than a boat. I admit I'm a novice and while I can take stuff apart and put it back together my knowledge of oil and performance is extremely limited. Just wondering what you folks have been running.
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  16. CloudSplitter

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    The first page of specifications in the 2014 owner's manual shows:
    10W-30 good for 10F to 70F
    10W-40 " 10F to 110F
    10W-50 " 30F to 120F

    More for hot weather, only.
    Check your manual
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  17. 8KCAB

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    I picked up my 08 last fall with about 3,500 mi on it. Great bike, does everything I ask it to do.

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  18. foo

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    A question to owners please.

    I have an XT250X, it's about 7 years old. I've been having some starting issues. Basically sometimes nothing happens when I push the starter. Other times I get a clicking in the relay and the dash will go blank.

    If I move the bars I can generally get it to start. To me it seems like a loose connection or short in the loom from starter to relay. Battery appears fine - full charge.

    It's in the shop and they reckon I need a new battery because the rectifier is overcharging. I reckon they are talking bollox. It seems to me they are looking in the wrong place. I have demonstrated the problem to them.

    Any thoughts - I'm in Singapore and service and training levels are pretty low here.
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  19. foo

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    Bike is running well now. Changed the rectifier and the battery. They demonstrated that despite the battery having a full charge as soon as it cranked over it dropped to about 5 volts. They also showed me that the rectifier was indeed overcharging.They couldn't find a problem in the loom.

    So I take it all back, perhaps they know their stuff after all. Seeing it in person as opposed to some guy trying to explain it over the phone made all the difference.
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  20. vagabondmatt

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    Hi All,

    I am seriously looking at getting a 2008-2012 XT250, and I have a question about them that is also applicable to modern dual sport bikes in general. Do modern dual sports handle water crossing and getting rained on better than the older, more vintage models? I haven't been able to find threads that address this specifically, so I thought I would post here. I'm thinking specifically about differences in the electrics/wiring or spark plugs getting wet from water crossing or rain, causing them to stall and not start...or causing things like lights and signals to stop working. Any and all advice and wisdom is much appreciated!