Yamaha XTZ 700 Thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by VTbeemer, Apr 7, 2017.

  1. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    Thanks Paqua, your experience on these two motorcycles goes a long way for us to learn that perceptions and actual experiences change from rider to rider and motorcycle to motorcycle. And what makes a motorcycle a great motorcycle to others may not be what we think matters to us. The Africa Twin low CoG conventional wisdom may not reflect true wisdom in the end, depending who you ask ... And it may not matter for the ones who ride the bike in the first place, depending on where and how they ride.
  2. twasp

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    Stopped by one of the Yamaha dealers in Vegas last week. The Yamaha rep had been in with pictures of what it will look like. Naturally they couldn't give details, just to say that it looked good. Also no price. The bad news is that Yamaha USA has not decided if it will import this bike. I mentioned the T7 concept bike, but no reaction.
    Perhaps someone with dealer connections can get more info from their local dealers?
    Calling Yamaha customer service with request for importation to US might help. Although it did not with the XT 660. Row after row of cruisers and sport bikes in that show room and two Teneres and a few YZs in a separate room,not a good sign of what Yamaha thinks sells.
  3. Hoak

    Hoak Long timer

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    Then there's the misquotes, out of context quotes, misrepresentations -- sorry, I'm out of gas for indulging this kind of thing; maybe someone else understands where you're coming from, and can make you a happy and cheery mate...
  4. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    I apologize if I misquoted, misrepresented or provided out of context quotes from you. I want to understand your point on COG on the Yamaha T7, and see the data that makes your point valid. You don't have that info, it is just conjecture, right? So I will stop asking. Thanks!
  5. Harry Potter

    Harry Potter Been here awhile

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    What color are you guys hoping for? I really liked the yellow, black, and white anniversary thing Yamaha did like two years ago.
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  6. dallastx

    dallastx Been here awhile

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    Like this, but then on the XT700Z Tenere? Because the T7 won't happen, I guess...... 2017yamahat7bc3t1izogy.jpg
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    Some styling similarities? Here's the Tiger Tramontana built off the Triumph Tiger 800 XCX platform. Looks as nice as the T7 concept
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  8. BaldKnob

    BaldKnob I Wanna Ride

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    C. O. G. omg!!! Two words... night mare.
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  9. MotoBoss

    MotoBoss Bad Influence

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    I'll take it.
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  10. John Ashman

    John Ashman Adventurer Wannabe

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    The Triumph suffers from the same problem. Built on a street engine, its primary complaint, before even being raised, is that it's top heavy. Maybe the Yamaha will will just *look* top heavy.
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  11. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    I like it too... but I have a feeling the Yamaha 700 will be a more interesting platform, for me, from where to build a T7-like machine. But I have a Tiger 800XC laying around... haven't ridden it much... who knows, at least it looks interesting.
  12. Motosapian

    Motosapian Been here awhile

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    The saddle on the T7 does not look touring friendly. The Transmontana looks more road worthy but it also looks heavy.
  13. Hoak

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    LOL, yup, cool 'looking' bikes to be sure, but, yeah... :D

    Too late, looks like they dropped on off-the-shelf *07 engine in the T7/XT699Z sub-compact car radiator and all and look at where they put it, it's even higher in the frame then it is on the street bikes...

    Both these bikes are what we used to call 'Dog Magnets'...

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    There were various versions of these created, and even one that was a pair of little motorcycles... The version relevent here had a dog that would not stay upright, because it magnetically wanted to be on it's head, it was a sort of frustrating spoof on the original 'magnetic dogs' or 'tricky dogs' that would make a kid think he had a broken pair of magnetic dogs.

    All the evidence points to the T7/XT700Z being a 'dog magnet' -- some people won't mind, or ever ride the bike where or in a way that it matters; but for some of us this is as bad as the cheap bicycle suspensions that are showing up on ADV bikes now...
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    T7-Amarela-vista-topo.jpg T7-Cinza-lado-frente.jpg T7-Amarela-vista-lateral-direita-1024x700.jpg


    This is basically how it's going to look right?
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    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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  16. davevh

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    Non - removable passenger pegs? No sale!! :yikes

    Interesting exhaust concept ...
    Is that bash plate a convenient carry handle or is it used for towing??

    Otherwise, cool bike :clap
    Keep dreaming, maybe a manufacturer will pay attention ...
  17. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    Mirrors... they are obviously too heavy... this bike will have a high CoG!!!
  18. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    Why mess with perfection.

    This in a light weight platform w/ a plastic tank is perfect:

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  19. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    Agreed!
  20. davevh

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    Not quite perfect, needs a Renazco seat! That thin thing on there gives me flashbacks to my Husky seat:bite
    Also, that tank does not look like it can hold a whole lot, unless I am mistaken. I think the ideal balance between weight/C.O.G and range in a tank is around 5 gallons for a rally/adv bike with this displacement.

    The KTM 690 Enduro has some aftermarket Rally kits that actually put its looks/function quite close to the T7 concept, and my brother is seriously considering going with that in the near future (we are not KTM fans, having never owned one, but the newer 690's seem to be getting a lot of praise)