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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by painkilla, Jun 11, 2013.
can you see it ?
No. It looks like a very streety bike. and wire wheels and jacked up suspenders are not going to make it much different.
BUT having said that, that seems all many people seem to understand so MAYBE
so you dont see that engine in a tenere type package ? to go headon with tiger 800 (triple) bmw 800 , etc
have some imagination
Not in that state of tune I don't.
But if it is light and they can get "regular gas" running AND good "mud and crap" torque AND good range. YES. (See how many AND's are in there.)
The fact that the bike is pretty light looks good. New geometry may be needed. I don't want to be riding crappy terrain with street geometry thanks. Been there done that. It's an attention sapping PITA.
It could be really good to have a "Starbucks Adventurer" version though to keep the sales up. but I would prefer a "real deal" version as well. That's the one I may go for. I don't need a high strung motor and chassis in the boonies.
Probably stroke it out to a 950 or something and rake out the steering a bit for a pretty "simple" mod.
Whether the light weight means fragile is yet to be seen, although it doesn't seem to hurt some other brands does it?
That is one of the reasons why I didn't buy those other brands though.
It looks like a Versys.
frame looks very close to R6-R1, as stated above geometry not likely to allow much hope.
Man even is they added 35 lbs more to make an adventure model with three more inches of suspension travel and a couple more gallons this would be a f800gs/tiger 800 fighter and a lot less weight
Meh. What I call a 'standard'.
It's a naked FZ.
I can see a currently empty niche in the adventure market Yamaha can fill:
1) based on MT-09, frame geometry revised, engine tuned for more low end torque, larger tank integrated with half faring
2) suspension travel and seat height of the Tiger 800 XC
3) 19" tubeless front tire of the Tiger 800
Has the potential to be lighter, cheaper, and faster than 2014 DL1000, but even if it's not, 3 cylinders potentially better than 2.
Hope they do a real and nicer adv bike!! this is fugly
Exactly what I would like to see. They could actually just use the Super Ten wheels as well.
glad a few others on here share my foresight ...
with statements like this coming from yamaha .. who knows , we might see something new to shake the adventure class soon ..its due time , whilst KTM and BMW have lost the plot with their 130 & 150 hp so called adventure bikes. Hope Yammi rewrite the rules on what a true adventure bike should bike.
It would seem to be a no-brainer for Yamaha to compete in the ADV 800cc market..I like the motor design. Let's see where it leads
If they build it, I will come.
I agree about the 19" front, make sure it has at least 7.5" of travel and 8" ground clearance.
While I am dreaming, 450lbs wet and $9000 msrp.!!
Of course, it'll probably only be available in Europe.
I'd like to see this motor in a bike with an old-fashioned steel tube frame. I'd want it to have these steel tubes run under the motor so a skid plate could be attached. I'd like the exhaust to be tucked up , out of harms way.
It should have 8-9 inches of ground clearence. It should have 8" travel suspension at both ends. It should have a substancial ,bolt on subframe with a sizable luggage rack.
No styled cast aluminum frame members, no extra plastic.
Wrap it up.
Here is a super quick and dirty, 5 minute, PowerPoint, hackjob, photo kluge (don't look too close.. it gets worse) of what I would like of the more-streety version of the ADV model, like the non-XC Tiger. I basically grafted on the front of a Uly and gave it a ~3" or so lift.
I have a street legal Husaberg FE570 that covers all my dirt and even most paved trips within 50 mile radius very nicely, but I need something that can cover longer 200 mile loops, an occaisional 2-up, gravel connecting roads, commuting, and still have some hooligan fun. 65lb/ft and 414 lbs on paper sounds pretty frolicky.
With some Pirelli MT-60's and a skid plate something like this could fill MY needs (I know others want more dirt, that wouldn't bother me either but this would be good enough to fulfill my bike stable needs for now and someone else with better photoshop skills can tackle those versions)
I was cross shopping a Versys because its cheap and a Tiger800 because its what I want. Something like this could be a great compromise. As long as it doesn't get hit with the "anime plastic" ugly stick along the way..
Please keep it clean Yamaha.. please..