Absolutely, I was talking about makes rather than particular trucks. Conventionals in England have always stood out like a sore thumb because there are so few of them. Length restrictions mean that they just don't have much use. When I was a kid they were practically the exclusive domain of truck shows, but these days Scania T-cabs are seemingly more and more common. Can never figure out why, 'cos although Scanias were always my fave trucks to drive (and one of the best looking), their convenionals look hideous imho. And they're horribly expensive (but they hold their value better than anything else).