Yellowknife ice trucking

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  1. PXX

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    The importing of the Sterling brand would have stopped last month due to discontinuation. As for the privately owned company importing the Western Stars, It may have been a pre-existing contract from the days when western star was an independant company. Daimler bought them up about 7 or 8 years ago IIRCC. It wouldn't surprise me that Daimler screwed up and gave away the rights though, They made a right royal mess when they pulled western star out of British Colombia.
  2. gefr

    gefr Life is a trip

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    Could you list the diiferent makes of these polar trucks? We don't hear of these names in warm med where I live. Cheers.

    P.S. Enjoying your "extraterrestrial" stories a lot. Thnx.
  3. squonker

    squonker Eat my shorts

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    gefr,

    They're not 'polar' trucks - just North American ones. The list could be far longer, but the most common ones you see (in Canada, anyway) are Kenworth, Peterbilt, Freightliner, Western Star, Sterling, Mack...

    The only one I can think of that we get here and you'd get there is Volvo. No doubt others might have something else to contribute to the list?

    Cheers!
  4. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    I`m pretty sure America/Canada doesn`t get the same truck as is available in Europe, which is a cab over, and uses a Volvo engine exclusively.

    Volvo Sweden stopped producing their conventional version for Europe (and Australia) some years ago due to lack of sales.
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    I think you're right.
  6. squonker

    squonker Eat my shorts

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    Absolutely, I was talking about makes rather than particular trucks. Conventionals in England have always stood out like a sore thumb because there are so few of them. Length restrictions mean that they just don't have much use. When I was a kid they were practically the exclusive domain of truck shows, but these days Scania T-cabs are seemingly more and more common. Can never figure out why, 'cos although Scanias were always my fave trucks to drive (and one of the best looking), their convenionals look hideous imho. And they're horribly expensive (but they hold their value better than anything else).
  7. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    That`s another one that was dropped here in Oz a few years ago due to poor sales.

    There`s a subbie with a few big horse V8 cabover Scania`s where I work and they sound great. Beats me why he uses them to deliver groceries, they must cost a lot to run.

    Did anyone know that Volvo got their foothold in Nth America by buying the White brand? Now they own Mack as well after buying Renault trucks, which surprisingly were sold here as Mack. They were a bit of a mix and match with Mack engines and Eaton transmissions with European ergonomics and comfort.

    Apparently Navistar/International (US) is the only manufacturer that doesn`t have a European owner/partner, although I hear Iveco is keen to take them over. Iveco took over the Australian arm of International Harvester some years ago and has rebadged our own International ACCO as an Iveco.
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    Iveco trucks suck on a whole new level.

    They sold a piece of shit to us, that you can never start and if by some act of god you actually get one running, don't you dare actually put any load in the bed.

    Fucker is incapable of pulling a 12% grade with two humans and a 500 lb load.
  9. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    There`s heaps of them over here pulling B doubles on interstate etc, but I hear they have a lot of trouble with their engines, which is called the cursor engine. Maybe they should change its name to the curser. :rofl

    A few years ago they had Detroit diesel engines, and all American running gear and they seemed to be OK. Now if you want a manual transmission you have to order it as an automated `box is standard. They do a lot of advertising here, which is one indication of a crook product as far as I`m concerned.
  10. V8R

    V8R Been here awhile

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    ahhh yes, love the sound of a v8 scania doing its thing, along with the 'pop pop pop pop ' of a 500 mack v8, chuggin along in the distance.. you can hear the things miles and miles away, school-yard memories of the grain trucks rocking along a few kays away come flooding back, whenever i hear one..
  11. squonker

    squonker Eat my shorts

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    Just a guess, but if that subbie is an O/O he might be running the big Scanny for a few reasons. There is an argument that a bigger engine working less hard will use less fuel than a smaller one that has to work harder to do the same job. He knows that he'll get a good return on a big cabbed Scanny with a V8 too when he comes to replace it, and he might not have intended to be delivering groceries with it when he bought it. But...I am just talking out of my arse here 'cos I really don't know his circumstances!

    I know a lot of owner drivers in England will spend the $$ to buy a top spec truck, then add all the extras and spend thousands more on having some fancy theme air brushed onto it - and this as their first truck! They argue that a trcuk that stands out gets them work, but I suspect it's more that they've always dreamed of owning a prticular truck and are more than happy to spend two or three times what they really need to in order to get it. Can't say I'd go the same route, but whatever makes your boat float I suppose!
  12. squonker

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    They sell Iveco tractors in Canada? Never knew that! I really like the look of the Stralis but I've never even sat in one, let alone drive one. What engine has the one you drive got in it? David, I've not heard of people having problems with the Cursor engine before - in the UK you don't have any other choice of engine manufacturer if you buy an Iveco.

    That's one of the biggest differences between truck manufacturing here and there. Over there, you buy a Volvo it has a Volvo engine. Buy a MAN it has a MAN engine, etc. They did put Mack lumps in Renault Magnums for a while, but it wasn't an option - if you wanted that particular horsepower output you had to get the Mack engine. ERFs had Gardners in them originally, not sure what they switched to after that. Cummins, I expect. The only truck they ever sold in the UK (since I was born) where you could actually spec different driveline features was Foden. Nice trucks, but like all the other British truck manufacturers they no longer exist.
  13. GP640

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    I think the Iveco trucks Drif is talking about are the little cab over 1tons our military uses. I've heard they make the Iltis look reliable.
  14. squonker

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    That'd make sense. What's the story on the Iltis? (For that matter, what is an Ilti?!)
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    Iltis was the name of the Bombardier manufactured VW powered tiny jeep thing that our military used to use. Terribly flimsy and has been replaced by the Mercedes G-Wagen.
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    Thanks!
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    The Iltis was actually a good little jeep. Once they figured out the fuel pump problem, they banged along pretty good.

    Yeah, we got that so called "one ton" piece of shit from Iveco. Biggest piece of crap we ever had.

    The G wagen is for overseas use, and they got 2500 Silverados for domestic use.
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    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    You are correct Ben. Here, a subbie is a sub contractor, but not always an owner operator (in our terminology). This bloke has drivers working for him, and I suppose he bought the trucks originally for another purpose.

    The argument about higher horsepower costing less is true, except this bloke has a number of different drivers in these trucks who don`t really care too much and often give them a bit too much "welly".
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    Ouch, make the burning stop.......I find mine quite capable and very reliable with the turbo diesel. One short video here, no thread hijacking implied.

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  20. squonker

    squonker Eat my shorts

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    Love it! You don't hear that phrase often enough over here. Super stuff!







    It looks like a very competent off-roader, but why did they have to make them so ugly?!

    Land Rover - the best 4X4Xfar!!