Yooperbikemike's 2012 MotoGP Thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by spezjag, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. bobzilla

    bobzilla Dirty Old Man

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    you sir, sound like a piece of shit . that attitude may fly and be ok in Jomamma but it has no place here
  2. Mr Head

    Mr Head PowerPoint ADV

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    Looking forward to you usual photos, and report. :clap

  3. RichBeBe

    RichBeBe All Hail Seitan!!!

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  4. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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  5. Kropotkin

    Kropotkin Big Girl's Blouse

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    A lynch mob.

    Now, Honeybunz stated an opinion in a rather unnecessarily offensive and unpleasant way, but there is a point there. Simoncelli has been beatified after his death, and claims made about him that are simply unjustified. Before he was killed, there was a group which championed Simoncelli's cause, and saw him as a bright young star adding some spice to what has become a rather dull series. There were those who thought he had it in him to win races, and there were a few that thought he might be a world champion.

    Since his death, he has been turned into the savior of MotoGP lost to untimely tragedy. Now, everyone is suddenly convinced that Simoncelli was a shoe-in for world champ at some point, and his ascent to alien level was only a matter of time.

    I remember the last time this happened. I was moving house, when a woman and her partner of the time were killed in a car accident in a Paris underpass. The world went insane for a year.

    The same thing is happening now with Marco Simoncelli. There is now a collective hysteria surrounding Simoncelli, in which it has become impossible to have a calm, rational debate about him. Now that he has been dead for a year, I expect that hysteria to subside, just as it did for Diana.

    I realize this is probably not a popular opinion. But frankly, the hype and hysteria is starting to overwhelm my gag reflex, and I need to spew a little bile. Feel free to ban me, badmouth me, call me all sorts of names, boycott my site. Hopefully, though, we can all calm down a little.


    Reminds me of a section of this song: "The Beatles, just a band".

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  6. HarveyMushman

    HarveyMushman Tire Squarerer

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    Understand and agree completely.
  7. spezjag

    spezjag Long timer

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    Ah, but will Elton sing a song about him?
  8. Kropotkin

    Kropotkin Big Girl's Blouse

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    I fucking hope not.
  9. snowhawk jockey

    snowhawk jockey Slack Jaw Gaper

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    Elton doesn't feed the hero worship of motorheads.
    Need some fellas like Ramstein to do a proper tribute song.:deal
  10. jktpa

    jktpa X-Troller

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    I think part of these long eulogies is that not as many people die in motorsports now as when I first started being interested in them (early 60's) back then and before a few racers died a year some were your average rider or driver some were the cream of the crop. It was almost as if there wasn't enough time to dwell on it if you liked racing you just moved on and thought about the consequences in your own way. I remember seeing a video of Sir Sterling Moss at Goodwood and he said basically the same thing only he lived the danger saying in effect a few of his mates were going to die every year and he had to just look ahead and drive the best he could or else get another job.
    another example besides Diana was Dale Sr. in NASCAR the reaction of his fans and enemies was way overblown.
  11. Kropotkin

    Kropotkin Big Girl's Blouse

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    That, to use the popular expression, is made of win.
  12. mdubya

    mdubya Right Brigade

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    It doesn't seem unusual to grieve openly on only the first anniversary of what was a shocking and very tragic death.

    Sic was what he was. Good, bad, and everything in between. It doesn't lessen the pain of his loss for some of us. I was a very open supporter when he was among us, though I never proclaimed him to be any kind of savior. Just an impossibly enthusiastic and and very talented racer who did leave a very large void in his wake, like him or don't.

    Slinging mud at his memory is in very bad taste on the anniversary of his death. If debating his legacy is so very important and necessary, save it for a different day.

    :norton
  13. Kropotkin

    Kropotkin Big Girl's Blouse

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    The only part of that I take issue with is that Simoncelli's death was shocking. This is motorcycle racing. A year earlier, Shoya Tomizawa had been killed, and a week before Tomizawa, Peter Lenz had lost his life. Motorcycle racing is dangerous. People die. Every death is a tragedy, but it should not be a shock.
  14. stk0308

    stk0308 Long timer

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    I was trying to figure out a way to agree with Honeybunz on principle without agreeing with his particular word choice. I watched much the same hysteria to deify Kato back in 2003. And like you have become somewhat tired of it this time around. They seem to be wringing a great deal of mileage, and money, out of his death over the last year.
  15. mdubya

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    I think you may be lacking a bit in the empathy dept. That is OK, but that would be your flaw not ours. :feelgood
  16. Kropotkin

    Kropotkin Big Girl's Blouse

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    I can agree that I lack empathy. However, I think it is very important to remember that this is a dangerous sport. Every crash has most of the press room on edge, at what might happen. Hayden at Aragon, Hayden clearly unconscious at Indianapolis, those were bad, bad scenes. But we know the price that riders may end up paying for our entertainment.
  17. mdubya

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    Of course, but that doesn't stop (some of) us from being saddened and even shocked when these tragedies occur. The brilliant thing about sport, especially dangerous ones like moto racing, is that it is very real and our heroes take very real risks with very real consequences when things go badly. It is not fictitious TV drama.

    Shit, people mourned for Valentino Rossi's broken leg like he had been killed. It is very human to do so.
  18. Kropotkin

    Kropotkin Big Girl's Blouse

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    A very good point.
  19. mdubya

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    :thumb
  20. Flood

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    I agree that it sadly is a part of the sport, and riders as well as viewers know the dangers.
    Nevertheless I can say that I, personally, was shocked a year ago.

    Apart from this I want to say that HoneyBunz received a temp ban because of an unrelated issue, people don't get banned for bad taste here, or we'd run out of KLR riders within days.