Yooperbikemike's 2014 MotoGP Thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by yooperbikemike, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. mdubya

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    He would have had one more factory Honda to contend with and considerably lower expectations. He may have still shined right through.

    Either way, my post was more wondering how Espargaro would go with the level of support and expectation Marquez receives. :dunno

    Either way, if you think I am doubting Marc's abilities or the validity of his championship, you couldn't be more wrong. :thumb
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  2. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    I get what you are saying, regarding MM. No doubt the season would have been different with CS27 on the grid. The points allocation would have been enough to change the results. I still don't understand why Pol is considered a better prospect than his brother, though. And I don't get the Redding selection at all. :confused
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  3. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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  4. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    I never calculated the mileage math before.

    15.5? That's a joke!
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  5. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    That was a good article by Krop in BT Sport. What is BT Sport? Is it a general sports news outlet like SI.com?
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  6. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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    BTSport is the new televiser of MotoGP in the UK
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  7. Jurassic

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  8. HarveyMushman

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    Well, he's coming from the Duc, which looked like it was rolling on car tires the way it resisted turning and lean angle. He might just be a bit dizzy on the Honda. :D
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  9. Moronic

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    Impressive lap from Smith:

    1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 30.287s (Lap 54/56)
    2. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 30.598s (35/36)
    3. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 1m 30.868s (20/23)
    4. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 30.992s (32/49)
    5. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 31.533s (12/28)
    6. Andrea Iannone ITA Energy T.I. Pramac Racing (GP13) 1m 31.594s (49/50)
    7. Alvaro Bautista ESP Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V) 1m 31.665s (32/34)
    8. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP13) 1m 31.716s (33/36)
    9. Aleix Espargaro ESP NGM Forward Racing (FTR-Yamaha M1) 1m 31.724s (27/41)
    10. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Test Team (GP13) 1m 31.969s (25/34)
    11. Cal Crutchlow GBR Ducati Team (GP13) 1m 32.102s (24/36)
    12. Nicky Hayden USA Power Electronics Aspar (Honda RCV1000R) 1m 32.123s (37/40)
    13. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Power Electronics Aspar (Honda RCV1000R) 1m 32.530s (27/52)
    14. Michael Laverty GBR Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART) 1m 33.055s (43/44)


    These were the 3pm times today at Valencia, from crash.net. Apparently it was just the single quick lap from Smith, with not much fuel in the tank. Still ... that's within half a tenth of Marquez yesterday, and faster than Lorenzo went yesterday.

    (And a second and a half quicker than Cal. :baldy )
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  10. gonnagetthere

    gonnagetthere Been here awhile

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    I suspect any rider the size of Nicky will have difficulty adjusting to the small size of the RCV1000R. To be honest, I question whether Nicky will ever overcome that challenge.

    Not sure what the conditions or circumstances at the track are currently, but last report I saw had Nicky +1.8 behind Marquez and in 13 position.

    I realize Nicky is very methodical in his approach, and has a myriad of things to do. I also know it's only the first test, but I hope Nicky can get a lot closer to the front before the end of the day. I'd like to believe there's reason for hope until the next test session.
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  11. DougZ73

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    Please see post #69. :D
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  12. gonnagetthere

    gonnagetthere Been here awhile

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    Ok...it was 12th position and Moronic made post 89 as I was composing mine. :lol3
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  13. 5th-Elefant

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    Smith is really looking good. It's been a tough year for him with MM as an example.
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  14. DougZ73

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    Its all good. My point is just, in terms of Nicky, I am personally not too worried about the early testing. He'll get suited to the new bike, both for sizing and how a "good" bike handles and runs. After all, he did win the championship in 2006, with a bike, a Honda, that was set up for someone of Pedrosa's size.
    :deal
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  15. 5th-Elefant

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    I wouldn't expect too much on a 3rd rate Honda. Top 10 would be a good result.
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  16. maloosik

    maloosik Squishimus Squidimus

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    Factory Honda
    Factory Yamaha
    Factory Honda
    Factory Yamaha
    Satellite Yamaha
    Satellite Honda
    Satellite Honda
    Satellite Yamaha
    Factory Ducati
    Factory Ducati
    Factory Ducati
    *

    * - Somewhere about there is where Nicky, Colin, a Ducati, and Aleix will be battling, so yes I agree, a top 10 finish for the "open" prototypes seems to be where the 2nd tier battles will take place, unless the TT's get slower.

    That's how I see it.
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  17. DougZ73

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    I expect the Proddy Honda's to be faster than the Ducs, battling for positions with the satellite Honda's, but behind the Factory Yami's and Honda's, and satellite Yami's.

    But who knows, the fastest and best handling bike this year, is not necessarily the same the following year. Sometimes, but not always.
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    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    Yeah, pretty much, but that's still ahead of the Red Devils.
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  19. misanthropic

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    Plus there is only one Honda for all of them to test. Once he gets his own copy it can be better set up for his size and style.
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  20. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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    I expect A. Espargaro to do a bit better on the Forward Yamaha than the proddy Hondas, at least initially. Maybe even taking it the Satellite Yams, on occasion.