Yooperbikemike's 2014 MotoGP Thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by yooperbikemike, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. Mike Yanagita

    Mike Yanagita Been here awhile

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    Cause it was the satellite team. It seems a little different when by Ducati's switch to Open, MotoGP was left in effect with only two factories.

    And it would be bad for business if the aliens lost the championship because so much of an advantage was given to the Open class. I hear some talk that Dorna left the door open for Ducati to do what they did in order to speed up the move to control ECUs, but given the unhappiness with 2007's lopsided tire performance, I'm skeptical Dorna would want to go there again for any reason.
  2. azkiwi

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    Ducati was so far behind (and still fading) that there were already only two factories. :deal
  3. Mike Yanagita

    Mike Yanagita Been here awhile

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    Fair point. Like Espargaro said at the conference today, there were only 4 bikes capable of winning.
  4. auguzt

    auguzt get on with it

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    The complaints were based on technicalities, and not because there were only two brands competing with Factory rules. Dorna didn't bother. On the contrary they were happy!
    And come on, does anyone really thinks that any of the pilots in the Open class have a real shot at winning the championship even with all those advantages?
    Take a closer look:
    Bikes - they are all running inferior machines (Ducati's TT - older Yammy - Honda slow RCV and old CRT's)
    Teams - they are all running with inferior software (it has been said that apart the Ducati team no one knows how to handle the new and improved software)
    Riders - they are no "aliens". Put them on the same factory bikes as the really fast guys and they will get beaten by them.
    Not a chance.
    Truth is Open bikes don't have a chance in winning a single race, let alone the championship. And if it rains or every factory riders is injured they still have Gresini's and LCR's Hondas and Tech3's Yamahas to deal with.
    Very hard to get to a podium...
  5. Moronic

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    Yes, in many ways that's more apt. Except that the internet tells me it was the FICM (Fédération Internationale des Clubs Motocyclistes) and the ban predated not only the FIM but the world championship.

    End of the road for the Velocette Roarer.

    And so another alternative is the FIM's pesky and short-sighted restriction of the engine swept volume to 500cc when it set up the world championship for 1949. Which I can guess was aimed at filling the grids, keeping costs down and promoting variety. :D
  6. DC2wheels

    DC2wheels Castle Anthrax troll

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    Would like to see Aliex mix it up with the satellites (should that be Factory 3??)

    IMHO, Bradl and Bautista just don't have that final % to get there, no matter what they are sitting on.

    But AE wasn't that bad last year- and now he is on much better equipment...and hungry.
  7. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    Fuck me, that's awesome . . . I wish they'd bring that back or maybe allow the Moto3 class to run full fairings.
  8. azkiwi

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  9. Mike Yanagita

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    Who would've guessed Ducati/Stoner would win the 2007 championship? They knew they couldn't really win without an advantage, so they took a shot at developing the Bridgestones, and it paid off. Not saying they did anything wrong then or now, but that it's not surprising the Japanese and Dorna are resisting Ducati's thinking outside the box this time around.

    edit: saw this just now: "Jorge Lorenzo believes he would have a better chance of winning back the premier class crown on Aleix Espargaro’s Open-spec Yamaha YZR-M1." I know you said "pilots", but it's an interesting declaration Lorenzo is making.
  10. Kropotkin

    Kropotkin Big Girl's Blouse

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    Very good point! :lol3
  11. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    I raced at the Road America round of the AHRMA series in 1988 and Eric Bley had one of these there.
    I neglected to put my earplugs in and that was a big mistake. I got behind the DKW for a while and it was a painful position to be in. This was the loudest bike I've ever been around !
  12. y2blade

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  13. windmills

    windmills Gnearly Adventurer

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    On the same page here man... early clock-off and home for some bikes!!! :D
    Interested to see what sort of a job BT do with the racing.
    Seemed like the Beeb sort of lost interest with MotoGP, enjoyed the world feed for Moto2 and 3 though.
  14. y2blade

    y2blade Long timer

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    Have you watched much of the Motogp stuff on BTsports so far? I've been pleasantly surprised with what I've seen so far.

    motogp 2013 review
    moto2&3 2013 review
    Jorge documentary
    Casey documentary
    Marquez documentary
    2002-2012 decade of motogp (2hr show)
    2014 season preview
    etc
    etc

    all well worth watching, the team are doing a great job imho.
    well worth £15 a month imho

    Roll on 15:00 :evil
  15. stk0308

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    You've pretty much hit upon what has soured me on this whole season. Honda sets the rules. Someone else finds an exploit that Honda isn't using. Honda gets the exploit exposed and threatened("OK, you can do that. But don't you dare be better than Honda!"*fingerwaging*), or outright closed.
  16. y2blade

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    So um I hear jlow asked to try out the open yamaha and was shut down. Bad move in their part if they want to keep him after next year.
  18. y2blade

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    Just over 2hrs to go!

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    For sure Aleix would be happy to swap seats (and salaries) with Jorge anytime. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
  20. y2blade

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    Yonny wins the"say cheese" award :D