'You are going to die' ....

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Day Trippin'' started by Kamchat, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. Kamchat

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    I hope so too mate .:wink:.... mind you, 37C sounds like too much of a good thing! ..... I'd be melting in my leathers! :eek1
  2. Aargee

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    Hi Kamchat
    Having visited US several times & driven there, I understand what it is like violating the law & driving & how the system works.

    Looks like you're missing all the fun :lol3 I commute about 45 miles to office everyday & touch atleast 75-80mph on a certain stretch of highway...atleast!!! This week I work EST, so when I go back home (early morning like 4 AM) sky is the limit :evil ofcourse, you need to watch out...what you need to watch? Let me put the horrors at the end :D

    So, you guys do max of 70mph? Is that all? My little CBR maxes between 85-90mph anyday & only for once I did 96 mph with great difficulty. But looks like I can join your speeds :D

    If you'd thought there's no cop trouble then I'm sorry my friend, I personally love that trouble because there're bigger ones than that which you can't imagine. Well what can you expect on a road? A moose? Duck? And what? Here, you can find people waving their hands (as sort of asking to stop while they cross the road), cattles, pedestrians walking on road (you read it right PEDESTRIANS walking on road), no lane for cyclist, sometimes bullock carts, uncategorized vehicles :lol3

    Here's what an uncategorized vehicle is...
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    Now about the law, people love to cross the signal when its RED (oh!!! we still follow the British style of Green go & Red Stop & Amber alert), no lane discipline right from motorcycles that are called murdercycles in my city, cars, trucks, buses, people riding & driving (includes cyclists to truckers) in wrong lane (driving in right side), jaywalking, vehicles cutting right in front of you & all this happens when no one wears seat belts & no riders wear gears :evil If you question or raise question on the road as why they violate law, chances are high that they worship us & our ancestors with choice of words :lol3

    So you see, how brave we Indians are :lol3!!! Seriously speaking, if you can ride/drive in this country, you can ride/drive anywhere in the world. Had I not been to US, I would've not been wearing gears, not learnt the rules of riding/driving & hell...wouldn't even be here to talk all these!!!

    So what bicycle you have? Pls put up a pic of it
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    No...... Lol! - We don't do 70mph max! .:D...... I have had the gixxer 'maxed out' on the odd occasion ..... but a typical rideout would probably involve riding in the range of 80 - 130 mph (when the 'coast is clear') ... .although it's not about straight line speed - the real fun is in the bends. :deal

    Yes, I can imagine riding in India is quite hazardous..... I used to live in Africa, and I have driven quite a lot in Romania which used to be quite bonkers at times (especially at night - drunk people wandering down the middle of the road and unlit horses and carts :eek1).

    As for a pic of my bicycle...here you go.... It is nothing special ..I bought it for my teenage son years ago but he doesn't use it anymore so I started putting it to use.
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    You haven't had the time to paint it to match your plane yet?


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    LOL ! :lol3 Nice one. .........

    .... No, - I have been too busy watching my butler paint the Bentley and yacht...... :D :1drink
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    Whoa! I caught up! Great thread Kamchat, and great pictures as well.
  8. AllBlackPearl

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    I actually kinda liked the idea of sharing some knowledge on speed limits and speeding fines in different countries! :D
    As I see, India is good place for speedfreaks in T-shirts... :lol3:lol3 while Bonny Scotland is to be taken with a pinch of salt rather.

    If any of you should ever come to pay Switzerland a two-wheeled visit (which I strongly recommend!!) - take care. Fines are high and rules are many... Hehe. :wink:

    I will put some main facts together.

    Let's start with general speed limits:

    Built-up areas: 50 kph
    Outside built-up areas: 80 kph
    Motorway: 120 kph



    As for the speeding fines:

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    The "at least 800"-thing means that the fine will be announced by the judge, according to the circumstances, his mood and above all your income and personal situation.
    Normally you will get 10 daily rates. The actual rate will be determined as follows:
    monthly net income - 25%, divided by 30.

    Let's take Kam's example from a few posts ago:

    He was caught doing 42 kph too much. (He got a fine of 395 USD and 4 points, remember?)
    If he does that here in Switzerland, the outcome will be the following:

    Assuming that he's done it for the first time, he will get a fine of 10 daily rates + an unconditional fine. Both depend on the income. I don't have the slightest idea what his income is (but seeing as he's got a plane painted in his bike's colours... :huh). So let's say it's 8000 Swiss Francs, which is pretty average. The unconditional fine will be 1/4 of that = 2000 CHF. The daily rates will be 200 CHF, so also 2000 CHF altogether.
    So the overall fine will be 4000 CHF = 4400 USD = 2800 Sterling. :freaky
    Add to this an enormous amount of administrative costs, possibly 1000 CHF or more.
    Additionally he will lose his driving license for 3 months and get a probation period of 2 years. If he's caught again during these 2 years, things will get really nasty. Don't even ask.

    Reminder - this is for doing 122 kph on a country road.

    Btw, the maximum daily rate can be 3000 CHF, the maximal number of rates 360 - that gives a maximum fine of 1'080'000 CHF (745'000 GBP). :D
    In January, a millionaire was caught doing 140 kph on a country road, not for the first time, with his Ferrari. He was condemned to 10 days in prison and 300'000 CHF...


    Having said this, Switzerland has the most amazing roads for motorbiking. You don't even have to speed to have maximal fun. You just have to take the right roads. On the best passes you will not even be able to go 80 kph without being totally on the limit and having Rossi-skills.
    So, as long as you behave in built-up areas and on the motorway, you should be fine.
    I've been living here for 2 1/2 years and been here before for many holiday trips and I have never been caught for speeding.
    So come and visit Switzerland, it's always worth a travel. :freaky

    Cheers to everyone out there!
    Have a nice Sunday.
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    AllBlackPearl - AWESOME!!! Excellent education. Tks
  10. Kamchat

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    Wayne Rooney! Good God! ...... such ghastly 'nouveau riche' vulgarity will never do :eek1..... I shall instruct Jenkins to repaint it good old 'British racing green' at once. :wink: :D
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    Thanks, it's much appreciated ...and 'good going' on the 'catch up'. :wink:
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    Good post.:wink: Thanks for the detailed info on Swiss speeding penalties! Yikes! - Looks like perhaps things ain't so bad over here after all.:huh That's pretty draconian stuff. .... perhaps Switzerland isn't the best place to ride an 'out n out' sportsbike. .....If I lived there I might consider changing to a big cruiser or trail bike. ...or I would end up bankrupt faster than my gixxer accelerates! :eek1

    Btw. - It's not all bad though - You guys are well paid - You say 8000 CHF is average monthly earnings..... That is about £5,500 or US$ 8,750 which is probably just over double the average monthly earnings here and certainly more than I earn. :cry
  13. Kamchat

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    Hallelujah! - It's March and spring seems to be in the air! ..:D...Yesterday was pretty nice weather, unfortuntely the forecast had not been so good so we didn't organise a rideout ..but I did manage to get out for the afternoon on two wheels - first cycling followed by a quick local blast on the GSXR.

    I did also run into the police ..... but it was a pleasant encounter.

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    continued .....

    9C and with some heat in the sun's rays it was nice enough to stop outside for a brew at the Carbeth ..

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    Out on the Stockiemuir ....
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    Nearing Queens View on the way back ..
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    Back in the city ....and Queen Victoria looks down on the gixxer.....
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    Apparently this terracotta fountain outside the Peoples Palace on Glasgow Green is the 'largest and best example of it's kind left in the world'......

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    There is a pretty impressive conservatory on the rear of the above building (Peoples Palace)....

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    On the inside ...
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    Heading back west across the city ... Trongate and the Tollbooth Clock Tower on the right....
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    The Briggait, listed building used to be Glasgow's fish market ...

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    Just a few minutes along the riverside and, by contast, - the modern financial district..... 6:00 and the sun is setting....

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    The Squinty Bridge
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    As I said - you just have to take the right roads. :wink:
    It's definitely not a good idea to max out your gixxer anywhere in Switzerland. But honestly, that's not a really good idea anywhere. Except on a racetrack. :D
    Here in the french-speaking part of Switzerland the police is not controlling too much. I have never seen any unmarked cars or bikes and actually very few mobile lasers. There are some fix cameras of course and most of them take pictures from behind, but you know where they are and that's it.
    It's in fact quite astonishing how few controls there are around here as compared to Germany for example. The police concentrate their efforts to the big passes, where all the tourists go. And I guess they make a lot of money there. You just stay away from those passes when you wanna go for a somewhat faster ride. Of course you should have seen them once or twice, but then you just go "normal" for once.
    There are more then enough extremely beautiful roads where no policeman will ever bother you. So no worries, you can come ride the Alps in all their beauty - and have fun! :D



    Yeah, that was actually a wee bit exaggerated. The average monthly income is around 6000 CHF. But that also means that 50% of the Swiss earn more than that... Still seems quite a lot compared to other countries, true.
    But if you once walk into one of our supermarkets and look at the prices (doesn't matter for what) you will stumble out backwards. Believe me.
    And should you decide to go for a few drinks or even a dinner, you will not stumble but pass out right away. I couldn't believe how cheap everything is in Scotland. :lol3
    For the rent I pay here I get two flats of the same size in Germany.
    And don't even look at the prices for bikes.
    So, in the end things are pretty much balanced. You only have an advantage if you live in Germany, France or the like and work in Switzerland. And you have the disadvantage if you come over as a tourist. :wink:
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    Thanks for all those great pictures again, mate! I can't believe the weather over there! Blue skies and dry roads... Is that really Glasgow... ? :huh
    :D

    Good to see some places I've been not too long ago as well. Brings back good memories. And some melancholy...
    A lot of melancholy in fact.. *sigh*
    But it's still stunningly beautiful.

    I think the above picture is actually one of the best you've posted so far. It's got absolutely everything in it. Fantastic shot.
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    Hm.... the building in the background looks pretty cool. :wink:
    Guess there are some nice penthouses for the Glaswegian mafia... :lol3
    Could be nice to live there, don't you think?
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  20. Kamchat

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    'Never seen any unmarked cars'...... well, that's a blessing then..... the police here have several and we see them on numerous occasions ... I consider these to be the biggest threat (the last time I was done it was an unmarked car :deal). There are also unmarked bikes ....but the hi-viz vest and white helmet can be a 'giveaway' :wink: