You CAN"T do that on a Tiger or Extreme Tiger Antics

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by boinoodle, May 6, 2014.

  1. btao

    btao RIP Lilolita

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    Boinoodle and I spent an eventful weekend redoing the hero sections of the BBA from a few weeks ago. The videos are being edited, but just to preface, there was a lot of water. Some sections more so than the original wet ride, which boinoodle did, but not me. Pretty much the whole ride was a Hero to most people. Some big mud holes, some big spills, noodle's bike dies in the middle of nowhere followed by my tiger dragging it by the leash 1.5miles back through the mud and wet to civilization. Yea. Got the video to prove it....:1drink

    The last time I was this sore, was doing the non-adventure bike ride at the Berkshire Triple. Again, mostly due to picking up 500lbs multiple times out of the mud, and because I was following boinoodle.

    Expected to be dirtier, but then again, it was getting washed most of the ride.

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  2. doniton2

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    I’m interested in that in that Banret clutch too. I’m not real happy with the stock one. I would also love to find a weighted fly wheel. the bike is very capable as you can see but the one thing I didn’t think about when switching from my KLR is picking it up. I’ve also raised mine and that makes it even harder. I think with a new clutch and a weighted flywheel I wouldn’t have to pick it up near as much because most of the time I drop it it’s on a hill, it stalls and the ground is either out of reach or slick.
  3. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    The SWmotech plate covers the oil filter completely. Some don't like the fact that it's rivetted but it has survived 26000 miles of use on my bike. It is there to protect the sump and filter from flying stones and does that job very well.
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  4. MotoTex

    MotoTex Miles of Smiles

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    Speaking of clutches, the rage in some other adventure bike threads have been the Auto-clutches, like the enduro bikes use.

    I wonder how long before one is adapted for the Tiger as it seems like a good way to mediate the tall gearing and prevent stalls. EFM and Rekluse don't list a Tiger application at this time.

    There are certainly aspects of the auto-clutch operation that might be less desirable, but overall it could be the best option to extend clutch life for those doing more serious dirt work that would otherwise require feathering the lever and slipping the clutch.
  5. btao

    btao RIP Lilolita

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    That's an interesting thought, I didn't know there were retrofits.

    The other thing that would be amazing, is the enduro? mode the BMW's have that cut fuel and timing and HP back something like 40% to make it more usable off road without the touchy throttle of a high powered bike. Seems like that would be programmable with a switch if someone wanted to get crafty.
  6. danketchpel

    danketchpel Long timer

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    Thanks a bunch for the feedback. You guys are pointing out the truly critical things for the more extreme riding, that's what I was looking for. I know the bike can cruise through the easier stuff, but it's a matter of replacing the KLR for the slightly gnarlier stuff (not crazy but sometimes you get in deep) and what will it take.

    The issue of picking it up is at the top of my list of concerns. I can pick it up, it's a matter footing etc. It's what has kept me from riding my Stelvio in the dirt more. The bike works well in the dirt for what it is, but it's so friggen heavy that every stop has to be planned carefully and god forbid you dump it in a bad place.

    From listening to the videos it seems like some extra flywheel weight would help quite a bit for the chug factor. The super heavy flywheel on the Stelvio is like magic in the dirt, same for the KLR. The tractor factor is quite good on both bikes.

    I'll keep an eye on the stepper motor fix development and wait for the kevlar clutch feedback.

    It would be sometime next year for me to change up if it makes sense. I've been looking at these bikes for a couple years now. A couple bikes have come and gone in the garage in the mean time and this is the next possible change out.

    I'll keep watching this thread as it's been one of the best for me in terms of seeing what's happening with the bikes in the real world. The photos of parts etc. don't tell the story the videos do, especially those with a natural sound track.
  7. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    The Tiger800s do it with clever fuel injection mapping. If the clutch is fully home it engages an extra 100rpm on the tickover speed and has a diesel like anti stall property. It'll pull you up quite steep hills at tickover.
    A heavier flywheel would wreck its sporty nature in the higher rev range IMO.
  8. Rubberlegs

    Rubberlegs Been here awhile

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    Exactly, i noticed this a few times while going over some narly stuff at very low speeds. I was sure the engine would die out. But nop. She pulles like a tractor.
  9. professorkx

    professorkx Been here awhile

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  10. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    How a Tiger 800XC deals with a KTM 950 Adv


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  11. doniton2

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    Mine sure doesn't have anything like this. It hates slow technical steep up hills.
  12. ElJefeATX

    ElJefeATX Morally correct

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    Define "tickover".
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    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    Engine idle RPM.
  14. btao

    btao RIP Lilolita

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    I'll second this. After riding through all sorts of mud and slop, rocks, etc., as long as it's not too steep, it'll keep going even with no throttle. If there's nothing in the way and you slow down with no brake, hold on, because it'll kick the idle back in robustly. Doesn't always work perfect, so keep that hand on the clutch, but it is pretty cool.
  15. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    What tune are you running? Because this was introduced since the first bikes were stalling on overrun. If you have an original bike with the original tune 20477................ it won't have it.
    Or maybe your steep is too steep. It does have its limits.
  16. The Haymaker

    The Haymaker Been here awhile

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    Considering I stalled mine in traffic today.......

    Tune was put in last August.

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  17. doniton2

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    I have a 2012 with the stock tune I guess. I'm the second owner. It still has the stock pipe and the guy who had it before me didn't get to crazy on it.
  18. Afry

    Afry Why hike?

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Could've passed that 950 on a Gold Wing - Lets see what happens when you actually go off road....:evil
  19. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Get it checked. Or download Tuneecu and learn how to do it yourself.
  20. lmychajluk

    lmychajluk Long timer

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    I just got some Karoo 3s put on my 800 Roadie last week, so another local inmate w/ a relatively new GSA decided we needed to do a little exploring and also try and get a feel for our comfort zones off-road (we're both relative off-road noobs). We found some local dirt roads that ended up having some relatively deep sand in spots. It got a little hairy in spots, but we made it through with only one Tiger nap.

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    I was following this thread, and remembered about the 'fuel injection tractor mode', and it did work in some places, but I think I still managed to fry the clutch. On the way home, I just could not get the bike to pull in any gear over ~6k or so. Sucks.... as I'm supposed to do the AltRider Conserve the Ride next weekend...