You Can't Tour On That. A 4000KM Ontario Trip On A 2011 CBR150R

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by GearDrivenCam, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. GearDrivenCam

    GearDrivenCam Been here awhile

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    Jdn - I'm pretty satisfied with this setup. Waterproof. Durable. And nice and simple. If I had to do it all over again - I would have bought the Ortliebs right away. Waterproof is the way to go.

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    Have you ever though about building a streamlined trunk? You would keep all of the locking storage space you need and gain 20kph of passing speed. You could probably put the larger front sprocket back on.
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  3. GearDrivenCam

    GearDrivenCam Been here awhile

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    It's funny Sendler. I was just thinking about that last night. More specifically - if Givi or some other top case manufacturer has looked at streamlining their cases and saddles. Creating a new range of products that look sleek and modern - and promise some improvement in fuel economy over more conventional cases. Instead of the case sticking out sideways on the back of the bike - have it extend length wise. Something like the Vetter setup in your photo - but just the upper portion. And then hard saddles that are more aerodynamic too.

    Mike
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  4. Gham

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    Great report,read the whole thing on this rainy sunday.Something about riding by yourself gives you a whole different perspective on things.I also like your writing style.
    You seem like you have a real zest for exploring.:clap
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    And offer cases designed for a solo rider that utilize the area right up behind you.
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  6. GearDrivenCam

    GearDrivenCam Been here awhile

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    Wow Gham! Not sure I could summarize it any better. You nailed it. And that perspective seems to disappear when you ride with others.

    Mike
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  7. GearDrivenCam

    GearDrivenCam Been here awhile

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    Exactly.

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    GearDrivenCam Been here awhile

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    I found a photo of the old beach at Windy Lake Provincial Park. I believe this photo was taken around 1985. The table that I was sitting on when this photo was captured is located remarkably close to where the more recent photo was taken in this trip report. A comparison of the photos reveals that the garbage bins no longer line the beach.

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    And here is a photo of the hill (the volcano-like hill in the distance) where the fire tower is located across Windy Lake (Cascaden tower). This photo was taken south of the hill from a helicopter on our way out to a grid. I was working as a summer student for Falconbridge Exploration (Mining) and was gathering rock samples in the area. This photo was taken in 1990.

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    Great report.


    Looks cold.





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  10. Blader54

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    Would Giant Loop's "saddlebags" work? The panniers come right up over the top behind the rider and down the other side. Don't have them yet but will probably get some -- I don't plan on touring 2 up and I dig Colebatch's preference for soft bags vs hard boxes.
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    The weather just north of Lake Superior can be unpredictable. You can be riding through 30C (86F) temps in the middle of summer and then suddenly experience pockets of 10C (50F) cold. But the temps warm up as you ride away from the big lake. On this trip - the daytimes highs ranged from between 25C-30C (77F-86F). The overnight lows can be noticeably cooler in Northern Ontario compared to Southern Ontario - so you need to prepare for that.
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    I've considered purchasing a Giant Loop Great Basin wrap-around bag previously. By acting as a tail-bag and saddles (all-in-one) you don't have to find a way to secure the tail-bag onto the bike separately from the saddles. This seems pretty convenient. But they apparently aren't waterproof. The other drawback I envision is that it would be cumbersome packing a lot of my stuff in the bag. And then when you need a particularly item - finding it, and retrieving it during a stop may be a challenge. And I'm not convinced the Great Basin would be a "click and go" setup - which is ultimately what I'm striving for with my gear. My top case now serves as my primary "tail-bag" and it's hard to dispute the convenience of the "click-and-go" convenience of the Givi setup.

    My Ortieb saddles can stay fastened to the bike too while I remove or replace gear out and into them. And they are easy to access at a stop. Quick and convenient top loading and unloading. I hate fighting with straps - trying to find the most secure way to attach bags to the bike each time I need to place the bags back on the bike after breaking down camp. That can waste a lot of time. The Ortliebs aren't the greatest in this respect - because they can be a big floppy unless you can find some creative ways to secure them to the bike. I have a US20 Kriega bag that I can attach to the pillion seat in just a couple of seconds with two speed clip straps that stay attached under the seat and clip into the US20 bag. I like this design. I'll probably use it on my next trip. It should help the air flow behind me a little more cleanly.

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  13. 2WDcanuck

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    Really enjoyed your RR!! I grew up in Cartier and like you spent many great days at Windy Lake and the surrounding area. (Living in Toronto now for the past 25 years). I get up there a few times a year and always make a point to stop in at High Falls. Keep the RR's coming. Love seeing guys do these rides on the smaller more sensible bikes. Just picked up a 2014 CRF 250L a month ago.
    Have high hopes to get many miles on next summer. Maybe I'll get up to TBay
    for a visit. Make my mandatory stop at the Hoito!!!
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    A great trip and a really outstanding report; extraordinary writing and a ton of photos! Perfect!!
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    Thanks for the reply re Giant Loop possibilities. I had forgotten that in order to really have waterproofness one would have to buy the specially shaped dry bags to go inside the saddlebags. The saddlebag itself is only described on their website as "water resistant". I think they could stand to make that much more obvious on the site instead of throwing around stuff about "trucker's tarps" and "mil-spec" (especially w/o calling out the spec itself). One thing about the dry bags is that they would serve to organize the load a bit, it could still be a hassle finding something to take out if you stop along the way.

    Loved the report! Looking forward to your next one!
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    Thanks 2WDcanuck! I assume you knew the McGowan's in Cartier? They ran the post office. I wonder if Pete's caves still exist in Cartier. It was fun exploring those as a kid. :D PM me - if you want a place to stay the next time you are riding through Thunder Bay. I think the Honda CRF250L is a fantastic bike - and outstanding value. I love my WR250R - but it cost me an arm and a leg to purchase it.

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    Thanks Sophijo! I had so much fun riding the CBR. Riding a slower bike does present some challenges - but that is what makes it interesting. And riding slower allows me to appreciate the scenery much more. It's fun to re-read the report after some time has passed. It recaptures the thrill of adventure I felt when I was out there doing it. I hope to keep on touring, camping, and writing!! Nobody ever warned me about how addictive this would be. :eek1

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    I must admit that I could never go back to non-waterproof saddles or tailbag. It's nice to have no worries about whether my gear will be dry when setting up my sleeping quarters for the evening - while riding through hard driving rain. It's hard to express the amount of satisfaction I feel when I am cold and wet - then change into dry clothes and climb onto my dry, warm, and cozy bed in the tent. It feels almost like home. What is nice too - is that I can leave the saddles and Givi on the bike overnight. They're always dry inside - even if it rains all night. And another nice thing about the Ortlieb saddles and Givi case is that it allows me to organize my gear based on where I decide to place it. The tent poles, sleeping bag, sandals, rain-gear, and air bed go in the Givi. The left saddle contains the tent, and tool bag, and the right saddle contains my clothes and electronics. This system works pretty well for me. Having said that - it seems like there are riders who love the Giant Loop stuff and it seems to work well for them.

    Mike
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  19. Blader54

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    Thanks for the insight Mike. Each rider seems to work out a system that works for him/her. You've got a system that's perfect for you....and I agree wholeheartedly about the importance of keeping the water out of the luggage! It's no good warming up and drying off if you don't have dry clothes to change into. H2O will ruin cameras, cell phones etc as well. And a big plus for having a place for everything and everything in its place. If you have to find something in the dark you''ll know where to look.
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    Wife and i tried all the big bikes from dual sports to sport bikes to big cruisers. I always wanted a smaller bike and she always wanted a bigger and bigger bike. I finally bought a '08 cbr 125 just because,and darned if it wasn't her favorite bike of the several she had. Right now we have a mgb but she's talking of buying a pair of cbr 125;s to go across Canada on.We live in Nova Scotia so it will be a long trip.
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