You ride long enough, you''ll drop it .....

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by gunslinger, May 15, 2012.

  1. gunslinger

    gunslinger diabolical schemer

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    I dont post much on here but some things are worth posting..........



    Ive been asked a hundred times what happened after totaling the Vstrom 3 weeks ago. An easy day; nice mellow weather, running errands, meet a client...... No hot, aggressive riding....

    Best explanation I have is "you ride long enough, you wreck". Some folks didnt like that story. The majority of folks said "Well, if you ride a certain way, there is no reason why you would wreck. You should be able to ride safely on the street."

    And for accuracy sake, some of those folks ride, or used to ride in the dirt. (Which to ME should mean they would understand more..... ??? )



    The MAJORITY of folks that ride on the road or race track said, " Glad youre alive. It happens." This especially came respectfully from a good friend of mine that lost the function of his left arm in a wreck West of Leavenworth, WA on a Ducati 748. He still races one handed at the former SIR on a Ducati 999... :norton




    This wreck occured coming out of a backroad chicane going about 55MPH and I just lost everything. No explanation, the back brake had been squishy lately, and I hit an ecoblock wall going approx 45-55MPH, I cant be for sure at the time. All I know is that I made a decision to slow down as much as possible and hit the wall straight on - the bike be damned - and go over. I was not going to low side and slide into concrete at that speed. Behind the wall was a natural area with a stream, grass, trees and whatnot.


    I felt taking my chances with behind the wall was better than sliding into it and possibly becoming paralyzed or worse.


    We are at a point in our lives right now where this was the last thing that we needed but God never pushes you past your limits so this is obviously for good, for something. I incurred stitches and staples to repair a hole in my back which surprisingly enough did not bleed very much. My spine was within a half inch of the initial puncture and the Doctor informed us that the spine was definitely visible in the cavity. In driving back to the location of the accident and talking with the people that witnessed my accident, the culprit of the damage to my back was a cut log on the ground with a cut off limb. The cut limb is what pulled my jacket up, punctured my back and filled the hole with dirt and bark and debris. The woman that witnessed the wreck told me she thought I was dead lying there in the brush, until I "jumped up and ran up to the road."

    I WAS wearing a $400 Shoei hornet helmet. And I WAS wearing a full shift ballistic suit of jacket and pants. EVERY person in the ER asked me if I had been wearing a helmet (since in Idaho, helmets are not law). My wife told me later that day; at the outdoor seating in the Pub by our house; a group of "patrons" commented on how if they had been riding that day, they would have been in T-shirts and shorts.... :huh

    Im glad I gear up. :)


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    Just be careful out there folks. Life is short. The below pic is two weeks after my accident. My 1 year old girl is happy that I get to throw her around in the tulip fields.


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  2. ChristianRider

    ChristianRider SwampFox

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    dang - glad your ok...

    Your lil'girl looks like she is walking on the cloud.
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  3. velocity

    velocity Been here awhile

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    You're one tough mofo to be tossing anything above your head so soon after puncture.

    Any clue on why you crashed? Unexpected decreasing radius? A bit freaked to see the concrete barrier? Crud in the road?

    Glad you're alright, and glad you made the quick decision to control your fate in a way that others would have thought they had no choices left approaching the point of impact.
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  4. hardwaregrrl

    hardwaregrrl ignore list

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    One reason I visit the FP thread is to learn from others. I'd really like to hear what exactly happened.



    This statement makes me cringe for 2 reasons, do you not use the front brake? And if you notice this about the rear brake, why didn't you fix it? Not trying to be an Ahole, but if you post your experience you need to fill in the blanks. Glad your girl still has her pops!!
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  5. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod Red Clay Halo

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    Glad you're OK. I've been in one accident. Hit a patch of gravel that I didn't see as I was entering a right hand turn. I was on the ground before I knew what was what.
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  6. WVMTS

    WVMTS Podunk Chillbilly

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    Gunslinger, glad you made it. Stuff happens quick. The pic with you and your daughter is priceless. Some decide to end riding after a wreck. Think you'll ride again?
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  7. NJ-Brett

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    Glad it was not worse.

    So how long have you been riding?
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  8. 390beretta

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    Best wishes! Please see my post on a different thread. Would like your comments as well!
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  9. Go Irish75

    Go Irish75 Been here awhile

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    Glad you made it out ok. It DOES happen. All 3 of my street get offs have been operator error, I admit. Easily avoidable if I wasnt pushing the limits on the street (one was a Deals Gap low side) like an idiot. I understand that there are some that arent avoidable, like when traffic just rams ya or comes out of nowhere. What do you mean when you say you came out of the chicane and "just lost everything"?
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  10. mapuda

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    Glad to hear that you are OK. Amazing that in the midst of it all you made a decision to go over the wall. Too bad about the tree limb or you might have been unscathed.

    Puts me in mind of Conor Cummins crash at the 2010 IOMTT (Google it). Like they say there are two kinds of riders those who have crashed and those who haven't yet.

    From your impressive list of bikes I see that you have lots of experience. Accidents aren't sometimes fully understood by professional crash investigators. They can be a "perfect storm" of occurrences that lead up to the smoking pile of twisted metal and injuries. Like you I am all about ATGATT. You should see some of the asshats here in Vegas that think summer riding gear is shorts & flops. You survived, and except for the pain/altered tat you can enjoy life, family and riding again.
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  11. thedrewski86

    thedrewski86 too few miles

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    Wow man, that is an insane story with some interesting pics. It happens, period. From what I can gather you just lost your brakes? Scary stuff.

    I'm glad your wife and kid still have you around.

    ATGATT
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  12. KradmelderSA

    KradmelderSA Banned

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    I figure the same. I fall about once a year, simpley cause i ride gravel, sand mud, rocks. All my falls have been off road and never involving another vehicle. Its part of riding.


    Chances of falling on tar are far less, but sooner or later the stats catch up to you as well. I figure if I dont want to fall may as well quit riding. One winter Im going to get flu, one time Im going to fall. I will never be immune to either.
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  13. RussellH

    RussellH Been here awhile

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    Glad you're OK despite the bike. Bikes can be replaced.

    I don't respect those who're cocky and sound like they're immune to accidents or somehow better riders than others. Especially on this forum where people are sharing their misfortune and deserve basic human sympathy from those who should understand.
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  14. GusinCA

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    It's the tattoo. if you didn't have a tattoo you wouldn't have crashed. :)

    (But I guess there was a study that said people with tattoos are far more likely to wind up in an emergency room than their non-inked bretheren)...

    Glad you're ok. I've been riding for 32 years, and I've never crashed on road. Off road, sure, but not seriously.

    I mostly do off road now, my reaction times aren't what they used to be in my 20's, and the speeds are slower and there's no cars to run you over...
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  15. NJ-Brett

    NJ-Brett Brett

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    Its about 35 years on the street with no crashes for me, and about a month since my last fall in the dirt.
    I have never been injured on the street, but lots in dirt crashes, dirt riding is risky!

    Oh, and I have one small tattoo...


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  16. ohgood

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    Glad you're healing. That's a beautiful shot, didn't need the background or flowers to be so either.

    Rock on.
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  17. GusinCA

    GusinCA Been here awhile

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    That is a beautiful picture, cropping just the clouds and the kid would look cool.

    And NJ-Brett, the reason why you crash so little is because your tattoo is small.
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  18. gunslinger

    gunslinger diabolical schemer

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    This is the best description I can come up with. Conditions were nice, but it was an up/down/right/left curve where I had just passed a car and was pulling back into my lane when the left hand turn came up...... Witnesses stated that they didnt hear any screaming tires and there are no marks on the road. Best description I had was that my rear brake has been squishy lately and I made a last 1/2 second decision to simply slow down and hit straight on instead of running the front brake hard and low siding into a concrete wall at 50 MPH. I PRIMARILY use my front brake. Where I wrecked was a slight "Y" also which I looked at as an out but had slight gravel on the inside and some potholes. Hard braking in those conditions is a VERY dicey scenario.

    Im alive, so Im happy with my decision.

    Haha. My wife's Aunt said the same thing. .... :)

    Yes, stuff happens super quick. And yes .... Thank you! She IS precious.

    Yes, Ill be riding again. Whats funny is that the day after the wreck, my wife said, "Hey, now that you wrecked that one; you can save up and get the one you always wanted!! (A KTM 990 ADV
    :evil ) I have the Strom 4sale as a rebuildable/hulk but if I might fix it and keep riding it. She has been a good steed. I actually bought her from a woman posting on this site years back, selling it due to to her Fiance wrecking it down in Simi Valley. He didnt make it out of the wreck..... :cry

    Ive been riding dirt for about 16 years. Off and on for a few years not having bikes...... Ive been riding on the street for about 10 years.

    To be honest, when things happen so fast, it feels like that. That is the term that I have came up with I suppose.....

    Like I stated in my original post, a few folks have had the mentality of "You should be able to ride safely on the road. There is no reason for you to crash.... :gerg :rolleyes

    As I have always believed, and fact is that not ONE rider I know has NOT wrecked; Its not a matter of IF you wreck, its a matter of WHEN......

    Haha. I suppose Im an ATGATT guy but not in the sense that I enjoy using the term...... :lol3 But I do wear gear. Its dirt gear, but serves me well and has delt with other get-offs. The helmet is mandatory for sure though.

    I have ridden in jeans and cut off shirt before when I had a cruiser but my current riding style and steed do not warrant that kind of attire. You have a get-off on these taller bikes running hard like I usually am, it translates to skin graphs and skull fractures. Guys here in Idaho also run around in shorts, flip-flops and a suntan. Their prerogative for sure - but I still shake my head and wish them luck.


    Love the attitude. Whats funny is how many people thought I was crazy about three years ago when I was riding my Strom 700 miles round trip from Coeur D'Alene, Idaho to north of Seattle, Wa in January. About 5 times. Rain, snow, hail, freezing, wind... everything. Lowsided in our steep gravel driveway trying to beat the 8 inches of snow on it.... Good times. :freaky

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    Nailed it. INFINITELY Important. That little girl is more than a blessing and ever so important. God didnt want her losing me that day.



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    Like I stated in the original post, I dont post here much. I actually havent been on in a while but some things are worth showing and maybe folks remember to put their helmet on that day because of it ..... or wear a jacket, or watch though that next turn less distracted, or do another pre-ride check to find that loose bolt, or hug their kids harder before they leave.......

    Life is short.

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  19. Cale_Kat

    Cale_Kat Been here awhile

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    Sir, With all due respect, you did not "drop it". You stuffed it into a immovable object at a high rate of speed.

    I do hope to ride long enough, drop it I have and will continue to do, but I don't expect to STUFF IT.

    You are very lucky to be alive. Ride safe.

    Cale
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  20. Domiken

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    Glad it worked out and you made the right decision at that point in time.
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