your backyard trials setups?

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  1. 2feetdown

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  2. ADVCoop

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    Awesome. I don't think my wife will be on board with putting an old car in the backyard. She is ok with obstacles and if I can find a log or nice sized rocks. But a rusty old car may get a veto LOL :D .
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    Its actually in a calf lot about 400 feet from yard plus i have tractor tires and poles. Lady up the road who has photography studio brings some of her clients down to take pictures setting on that rusty old thing. Full of bullet holes from previous owner it is quite ugly.
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  4. Bronco638

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    Did you lose a chain? :D

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  5. MT 007

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    I noticed that to - there is a matching one on the other side of the ramp... strapping lumber is an interesting use of an old chain :)
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    I like that too, I'll bet you could drive 20d nails between the rollers anywhere along the chain to hold things together.
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    Old chains work very well for strapping obstacles together, strapping logs to trees to hold in place. many uses to recycle your old chains.
    I used outdoor building screws (deck screws) to secure the chains.


    Oh and that ramp is actually a dual chain drive inclined conveyor.
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    I didn't notice the other (old) chain or even think of using an old chain in that capacity. Pretty cool. :thumb
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  9. goinsriding

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    I have a crappy little retaining wall in the backyard. I kind of made it up it.

  10. Gordy

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    That is cool!! :thumb
    If I could suggest anything, try hitting the front tire about 4-6" lower and then JUMP when the front tire hits. Ideally, you want the knees to drop forward as the bike is dropping into the ledge. It looks like you are a little late on the jump.

    These videos are a great learning tool. :nod I take them all the time and not only can sometimes see what is going on but I have some friends that spot mistakes and suggest improvements.

    Then........wear some grooves into those ties practicing!! When it gets easy, move "off line" a bit and start hitting it at a small angle.

    Nice job and post more videos. I love these slo-mo ones!!!!
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  11. goinsriding

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    thanks for the tips. It is very hard to allow myself to hit the wall lower with the front tire. Im fairly new and pretty much self taught through videos and watching better riders ride.

    The slow motion is because i had a neighbors kid video it. He did a great job on it.

    It will be a while before i hit it at an angle but when i get my timing down i am sure that will give me more confidence.

    Again thanks for the tips.
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  12. Gordy

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    Yup, I still have a lot of problems hitting low enough. It is our survival instinct kicking in! :rofl
    One of our top riders told me to hit the ledge "uncomfortably low".

    For being new, you seem to be well ahead of the curve!
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  13. Harry Potter

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    Hi Gordy, so I am going to try my first retaining wall sort of ledge this weekend (not very high). My steps should be 1. Loft the front wheel to hit about 4 inches from the top, 2. Stand or jump up as the tire hits, and 3. Drop or bend the knees forward as the front tire clears the edge? So do I have this right? I have practiced logs but I seem to have a mental block about straight up walls. Thanks
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    Sort of, and this takes a lot of practice (I am only just figuring this out after much coaching and practice).
    If I have it right, it goes something like this and the timing of it all is what you will have to figure out for yourself.

    Approach at a walking speed.
    Do a gently wheelie into the top of the ledge. Have a target in mind. I can't tell you where to hit, that depends on the size of the up. You will want to hit low enough that it feels like it will stop your forward momentum. This will compress not only the front, but the rear suspension. It is hard to judge and do consistently but it will be about 4-6" below the top, but not above the leading edge of the obstacle. If your front tire is still rolling at the same speed as before the hit, you are too high. It will noticeably slow down or even almost stop.
    When you are doing the wheelie, drop your knees forward and down and let your hips move towards the bars. I find it helps me to hold my elbows high and force my entire body to be forward well before the impact.
    Try to crouch a little and time your jump for when the front wheel impact starts. If you wait to jump when it feels normal, this will be too late.
    Give it a good impulse of throttle/clutch exactly when you initiate the jump.
    You will eventually also get a small jump down on the pegs right before you jump as well and this will get you a bigger launch.
    As described, there is a lot going on (and there is). It just takes a lot of trial and error to get your body to do what you want it to..........if you keep failing, quit doing it, you are just getting muscle memory to "remember" the wrong things. Go back to what you can do and build from there.

    Believe it or not, this should all the same for small ledges but it seems harder for me to zap a small ledge over say a 30" one. :dunno
    There is not much distinction IMO between a double blip and a zap but a double blip will get you over most stuff up to 24" or so. There are so many ways to get up the same obstacle it is over-whelming at times to figure out what to do.

    The idea (as we all know) is to get up without the skid plate hitting. If you can get that, it is good no matter how you do it!! :rofl

    I hope that this helps a bit.
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    Nice description Gordy! I could almost hear Big Al's voice while reading it! :lol3

    Just to add to the 'drop your knees' part, I think it is important to re-state that bending the knees down and forward is for the wheelie portion of this technique before impact on the obstacle and not after the front tire clears the edge as stated above. The reason for the down and forward with the knees is to initiate the wheelie using body motion instead of pulling up hard on the bars. Plus, by bending the knees down and forward on the wheelie, you are now in the correct position to jump up as the front tire impacts the obstacle.
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  16. goinsriding

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    I should say that fairly new to trials is I started about a year and half ago. So maybe I'm not that new to trials compared to some.
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    Does it help to hold your throttle at about 1/4 to 1/2 throttle as your front wheel lifts once the front wheel is on its way up pull in your clutch all the way and let the bike rev (still at 1/4 to 1/2 throttle)... as your front wheel hits the obstacle just drop the clutch and jump? ... you can ease off throttle once airborne.

    Don't forget to have the kid next door catch it on video...
  18. Gordy

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    Here, I uploaded a short video of the short wall.



    If I can get better at this, the rear tire should go completely to the top.
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  19. Harry Potter

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    Thanks Gordy and Trail Boss. I have been thinking about attending a Vintage Trials event in NM mid August at a ski resort maybe I'll meet some of you Trials guys.
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  20. Harry Potter

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    Right before the rear tire hits are you pulling up on the handle bars? Thanks for posting, that's the slow motion video I needed.