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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by cyberdos, Feb 16, 2010.
You 'throw it away' kind of disconnection. In its place you plug a resistor. The intake sensors are used as normal. The PC lives between the ecu and the injectors.
The instrument package is not a deal breaker for me, but I agree with your opinion. I way prefer an analog tach (digital speedo is OK). A gear indicator is an extra I can live without, but a temp gauge on a liquid cooled motor should be a standard feature. My '08 Bandit also lacks it, my son's '07 FZ-1 has one (albeit a small one).
I don't know which PC you're looking at, but the PC3 for my 1150R comes with a new O2 sensor, so it does still use one, just not the crappy narrow band stock one.
It looks like, from PC's website, they already have one for the new Z1000. Doesn't require an O2 Sensor.
The most important question....
When did you upgrade from your purple `Stitch?
Looks like a great ride, and you did a great job with a real world writeup.
I got a 3D look at the new Z1000 at a local dealership. It does look better in person than in photos. Also got a chance to take a seat on it, but no demo ride. Still looking for that opportunity.
I like it. The Zed doesn't look as Transformer'ish to my eye in person. Lots of angles and sharp lines, to be sure. I don't care much for the plastic pieces hiding the USD fork. The bottom sections look easy to remove, the tops look more problematic. The bottom fairing piece will be easy to take off, I'm interested to see what that'll look like.
The shock location is really cool. It's mounted off center making it closer to the right side of the bike. Much easier access for adjusting.
The bike didn't have a battery installed so I didn't to see the digital instrument pod lit up. The angle adjustment in very simple/easy. I'd still prefer an analog tach. And I'd rather have a temp gauge than a clock.
The seat is 32", but narrow. So no difficulty in my flat-footing it at 5-9. I liked the ergos behind the handlear, which falls very naturally into my hands. Plenty of room under the tank for my knees when my feet are on the pegs.
The chain adjuster is an eccentric type, making adjustment simpler. But because of that I'm not sure a Lift-N-Lube stand can be fitted to help lube the chain.
The location of the oil filter will make oil changes a breeze (unlike my Bandit 1250). And there seems to be a good amount of space around the engine bay for access.
A major aesthetic nit is the white rear pillon seat found on the white/orange model (the one I'll get if I get the new Z). That's gotta go. I asked about ordering a black one from Kawasaki and was told that it shouldn't be a problem.
The mechanism for attaching the windscreen will make it easy to replace once ZG, Puig, or MRA start making a windscreen for the new Z.
Again, I like it. Now I just need to scare me up a demo ride .
The tach (like all of Kawi's other digital models) is hard to read. I don't know why they've stubbornly held on to that feature. Analog tach and digital spedo would work just fine. I should've paid more attention but I hardly ever look at my cluster. I've always ridden and shifted with the feel of the bike so a shift light would be useless. Temp and oil is a different story.
I'd rather have both. It would be no problem to fit them both on this display and there'd still be plenty of room for the gear indicator, too!
By the way, I don't know if it's the same for you in the US, but the clock is so important to many because here in Oz (and in Europe, I believe) there are many speed limits that are time-dependent, in particular school zones - at 8:29am the speed limit might be still 60km/hr but at 8:30am it suddenly becomes 40km/hr, and school zones often come with a speed camera attached. Getting caught while going 20km/hr over the speed limit can easily make a difference between riding and catching public transport for a long, long time!
That's why we *really* like to have clocks included in our instrumentation.
We have the speed zones, just not the cameras for the most part.
I would think that a little handlebar or brake resivior mounted clock would solve that issue.
So I spoke with Tammy about this and here's what she got back to me with:
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Well, I got to test ride the new 2010 Z1000
(and a 2009 FZ1) at a local dealership last Friday.
It was the white and orange one.
It looked better in the pictures.oser
They didn't have a black one,
but I hope the black one looks better in person.
Huge power. Huge torque. Very smooth. Stiff suspension as set up.
I got to ride it on back streets of a town and a little
bit of overcrowded interstate. No twisties right there, so I could just only tell so much about the handling.
It accelerates to 100 indicated in a very short distance.
I was not impressed with all that flimsy plastic along the sides which house the overflow bottle, intake vents, and turnsignals
(I would have to redo all that. I've been looking at aluminum overflow bottles online today).
The exhaust system . . . we all replace them anyway, don't we.
And Two brothers is working on a new and improved juice box for it.
Thanks so much for the write-up Cyber
I have no clue as to why I let this slip for so long, since the Z1000 always was one of those dream machines to me. Maybe I didn't fancy the design trend of "Plastic, plastic, we need more plastic!" It seems lazy to me, like they don't want to clean up the engines so we have something mechanically beuatiful to look at instead of that damn plastic. I do think this new Z looks good, can't wait to see it in black.
And if I may say so, Sir, you are one lucky bastard and fabulous pics from the inside of their racing unit Not envious at all, nope, not at all!
I has looking through some of my stuff and I ran into a flash drive that they gave me that day. I totally forgot about it. Much to my surprise it had some bike specs and best of all great pics. Check em out.
Another Aprilla owner trying to justify the money he/she spent.
Something that sounds like a bucket of bolts when it runs is not exactly the standard for other naked bikes to be judged by, IMO. You can take solice in the fact that the Tuono is relativley unique compared to most bikes. Congratulations, you have a conversation piece/novelty bike that people will talk to you about wherever you go, but to say it's the 'reference of naked/ street fighters' is clearly hyperbole.
People who spend a premium for a brand names like Aprilla, Ducati or BMW do it because they think it makes them special somewhow. Happy maintenance intervals! :eek1 You will truly set yourself apart from Zed owners with those
...a bucket of bolts? The Rotax engine is very reliable.
Listen to this then! I can't here any bolts...Just pure soulfull vtwin thunder. Something a Z owner can only dream of!
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Z1000 is a sweet machine. No doubt about it.
The problem is the price. Its over the 10,000 dollar point (therefore I'd never buy one).
I had an 04 Z1000 that I really enjoyed. Sounds like they have fixed the problems with the old bike with this new and improved version.
Its over priced for what it is. I wonder how sales are going so far?
I wish the instrument cluster had been a "deal breaker" for me as I bought a '10 Z1000 and discovered exactly what you said about it being hard to read and lacking a gear and temp indicator. There were other things I did not like about it (ergonomics) so got rid of it within 600 miles .
Really? The ergos was one of the strong points for me. And I'm coming off a VFR. Every person's different.
I currently ride a 2007 SV1KS that I've been thinking of replacing. My wife rides a 2003 Z1000. I've taken it for a spin a few times and LOVE it.
Recently came across a used 2007 Z1000 that I'm interested in. Any idea how the 2007 compares to the newer model?