Zen and assembling a hack ! Your never done

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by davebig, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. MGV8

    MGV8 Adventurer

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    Ah for the perfect rig. I follow along here in hacks a lot trying to learn. I read and read but not much sinks in. I go against the grain a bit and feel I can make my rig work my self, read cheap bastard here. Well not so far, unrideable and dangerous:D Of course I have not put much time into it yet, several weeks last winter, much measuring and welding stuff to an old piece of shit bike and a heavy Ural car. Filled my pants on the first ride, is that the Zen part? I got busy when spring hit, I do have a busy shop to run and a race car to prep and run and oh yeah bikes to ride. The rig got moth balled till I could gather more info and decide if it is worth risking life and limb just to satisfy a lust. Hmmm that single brain cell that actually works in that empty space between my ears kicked in this spring, and I found a nice 1200GS that was just begging me to buy it. So now where do I proceed, I love the GS just the way it is, never rode one before so had no idea and my beloved ST is feeling neglected, weeping a bit of coolant just to get my attention. But the hack is what I stare at when there is time to go to the shop and sit and think. I think I need help:wink:
    Brian
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  2. FR700

    FR700 Banned

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    You still fartin' 'round with that CX ?
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  3. Melrone

    Melrone Been here awhile

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    I can say this..I bought a rig put together and have been fixing ever since..This is the only way my wife & I can ride...Its true They are never done..I'm replacing my subframe and adding a swaybar this winter..Your GS would make a nice tug...Good luck and go for it...
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  4. MGV8

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    That was the plan, but now I have the GS so the plan has changed. I moved the mounts around on the CX until I had it as bad as I could, then gave up. :D I had a whole new design thought up that should, " key word should" work. Then I found the GS so I get to start again:evil. The snow is just about to hit here so that is when I get time to go putter. There are ready made mounts for the GS so it should be easy-peasy. Still I am stubborn and a bit contankerous so I may stick to the plan.
    Brian
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  5. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    If you can't get what you need here your only about an hr from Kamloops http://http://www.sidecars.ca/#!home/mainPage
    Brock was very helpful when there wasn't much in it for him with me.DB
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  6. MGV8

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    Yes I tried to get a hold of Brock, but he never returned any Emails or calls, plus Calvin who has a very nice rig of Brock's creation said the same thing, this summer. I heard rumour that he was taking a break so didn't pursue it any more. Not sure, all 3rd party so don't take it as gospel. Just spent the last while on the Freedom site, hmmm Visa card is empty at the moment, and we just had a good month at the shop. Dreams of sugar plums are not far off.
    Brian
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  7. Melrone

    Melrone Been here awhile

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    I'd give Claude a call and see what he can do for you..You won't be disappointed..Hes a good guy and will help you out anyway possible....:freaky
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  8. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Yes gimme a call if you have time. We will try and help you out...heck if nothing else we can talk racing some. I ran sprint cars and midgets full time for quite a while and did quite a bit of building with the things also. Call in th evening if you wish 570 837 5182. Yeah we have parts and pieces and all that on hand. Are hacks ever done? Yes, if you want to ride more than tinker! Can they always be made to be better? Yes but how far do you want to go. Build a good one and just ride the darn thing! LOL.
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  9. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Well today I was busy trying to learn a bit about Urals helping a friend change his Ural a bit,he'd had it 3 yrs and assumed they all drove badly.
    The paint hadn't been disturbed and the damn thing was together tight,but basically the dealer had sent it out with the toe straight and the tug leaning in a degree.It was a fight to get it loose and moveable ended up with 3/8" toe in and leaned the tug out 2 degrees, I had to go but he did call and said it was pretty neutral and much improved and now that I'm getting the hang of it we may have to try and get the sidecar frame leveled. So it came from a dealer in MN that's service dept is not the envy of the nation, and it would seem everybody has an opinion on how Urals should be aligned.Thanks Claude.DB
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  10. Dan Alexander

    Dan Alexander Ride Far - Ride Fast

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    So you've become a Urologist then, congrats!!

    Next time I'm in the need of a specialist I'll give you a shake :lol3
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  11. Bobmws

    Bobmws Curmudgeon At Large

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    If DB was in New England, would he now be a Wicked Pissah?! :rofl :evil
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  12. Melrone

    Melrone Been here awhile

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    Aren't Ural rigs fun to mess with.I just helped a friend pull apart & put it back together agin after a nice fender bender..Did the mechanics & another did the body work...They are interesting.....
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  13. dholaday

    dholaday Been here awhile

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    We all know about DB's problems with deer and attitudes.

    His new tug [picture below] should take care of both.

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    :clap
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  14. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    That would do it for me !!!! Definitely the second guy to buy my Ducati Elefant in or around fleabay begged off with a made up excuse (probably angling for a better price) I'm thoroughly pissed.
    I don't know whats more unreliable DMC's early GS rigs or Fleabay motors grrrr ! woof !

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=921027
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  15. Melrone

    Melrone Been here awhile

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    I'd guess DMC earlier rigs..Why because I own one...Thats why Claudes getting it after the first of the year...:lol3
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  16. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    It was in the 40's and the Sun was out so Justin and I went to Northfield to help Jack and learn more about Urals.Cool on the way up upper 30's but sun was out.
    We had his toe in and lean out good but the chair was far from level, more You tube investigating and away he went.He got the damn thing level but .... he couldn't get back to the proper toe and lean out. I'm a great gorilla not too large but threatening just the same so lift pull grunt and swear.Jack breaks out the secret tool he's made a long wedge out of a 2X4 to drive between frame and dog leg to push chair frame away from tug.We ended up with 3/8 to 7/16 toe in and about 1.5 degrees of lean out.(it had never been adjusted and the paint and clear coat made things tight). The only drawback I can see is setup ends up with .5 to 1 degree of camber away from the tug on the sidecar wheel.That and they are sprung to haul 2 guys a machine gun and several hundred rounds turn the springs down !
    |Apparently he could not ride it one handed at hwy speed, he can now and it isn't to threatening he's pleased and will not need much help again, if he can learn to steer with the throttle he'll enjoy it allot more.Part of the trouble with sidecar rigs is it takes one properly adjusted before they are not a total pain in the ass to drive. A Slovak rider I met one time when I was getting started and was thoroughly exasperated said in a thick accent with a ironic tone " sidecars you have to hate them till you love them". Ja natürlich!
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  17. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    On the nearly fully farkled thread wow Neo Facism is so American WTF !!!!!!!!!!:eek1
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    Wow real WWII HDs unrestored purchased in Europe, ridden by Dutchman on their way to Milw from Sturgis.
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  18. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    For the anti swaybar ( I need my ground clearance) crowd, I grabbed this video after seeing it on FR700's thread.Very impressive WWII German sidecars actually being ridden as they would have been either invading or retreating out of Russia(damn that's a big country) :lol3:lol3
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    Gott im Himmel! Haben Sie nicht die furher Sie einen Globus?
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  19. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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  20. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    “Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.”

    ― Ambrose Bierce
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    Can anyone tell me why it's unacceptable to question things on the advrider\hacks forum ?
    Nothing to worry about just a little exasperated by the usual BS conducted by various versions of Mr Roberts we are all in our places with bright shinning faces !
    I think Mencken had it right
    I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant.

    H. L. Mencken
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