Zumo 550 plus US topo

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  1. thouk

    thouk Been here awhile

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    Hey Everybody,
    I am trying to get the US topo maps on my Pop's zumo 550. I loaded up a two gig card and I placed it in the unit but it does not read the maps. How do I get it to read the maps on the 550? I can read the maps on my 2610 when I load it on a card for it. Thanks, Tony
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  2. mx125

    mx125 Knob from Canada

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    I don't want to be one of those goofballs that responds, without actually testing the solution . . but I thought I would try to help anyway.

    I don't own the Zumo but will soon. The other Garmins I have require the "turning off" or hiding of map sections when there is overlap. There is a level of prioritization and the City Select maps in your unit over ride the topo (or others) you might load.

    In my 60C, for example, I have to go to map setup . .and under the list of map sections loaded, I menu again and have the option to hide map sets. If I want to see topo, I hide City select. You can then reactivate when you're back "on road".
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  3. RL Lemke

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    The owners manual shows how:

    Changing the Map Settings
    Touch > Map.
    Map Detail—adjust the amount of detail
    shown on the map. Showing more detail
    may cause the map to redraw slower.
    Map View—change the perspective of
    the map.

    Map Info—view the maps loaded on
    your zūmo and their version. Touch a
    map to enable (check mark) or disable
    (no check mark) that map.
    Restore—restore the default map
    settings.
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  4. El Diablo

    El Diablo Mama I'm goi'n fast!

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    You need to go in to map settings and make sure that this map is checked.
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  5. mx125

    mx125 Knob from Canada

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    But even if it is . .I believe the prioritization will over-rule if the CS maps are also checked.
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  6. El Diablo

    El Diablo Mama I'm goi'n fast!

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    Then you need to make sure that in routing off road is checked too.
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  7. thouk

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    Hey Everybody,
    I looked at the maps that are loaded on the zumo. It does not ever list the US topo. It list the city navigator maps and that is it. Any more suggestions? Tony
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  8. richc

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    Did you load the card using Mapsource?

    MapSource has a priority scheme;
    if you load Topo maps alongside your City Navigator maps (and both mapsets are enabled) then only the highest priority mapset will display (City Navigator)
    To display a lower priority map; spanner - Map - Map Info - untick City Navigator
    Please note that not all topo mapsets will generate an onroad 'turn by turn' autoroute (faster/shorter).

    If you load a second mapset from standard MapSource then it will delete gmapsupp.img and create a new file with the maps you have selected.
    If you want to load additional mapping from 2 or more mapsets then you must select and load them in one PC session.

    Your unit will quite happily read the map files from either the internal memory or the SD card as long as they are in the Garmin folder.
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    Did you load the card using Mapsource? You need to unselect the CN maps, then your Topo maps should be ok.

    MapSource has a priority scheme;
    if you load Topo maps alongside your City Navigator maps (and both mapsets are enabled) then only the highest priority mapset will display (City Navigator)
    To display a lower priority map; spanner - Map - Map Info - untick City Navigator
    Please note that not all topo mapsets will generate an onroad 'turn by turn' autoroute (faster/shorter).

    If you load a second mapset from standard MapSource then it will delete gmapsupp.img and create a new file with the maps you have selected.
    If you want to load additional mapping from 2 or more mapsets then you must select and load them in one PC session.

    Your unit will quite happily read the map files from either the internal memory or the SD card as long as they are in the Garmin folder.
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  10. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    They will not show up by just coping the TOPO's to the SD Card. You have to plug the zumo into your PC and load the maps from MapSource. Then do as above and make sure the TOPO's are "checked" and that the base mapset (US CN) is "un-checked". But, if you just want the elevations data you can "check" both map sets and even though the USCN map is on top, the TOPO data is there. Check this by Browsing the map and placing the pointer in an open area. You should see the elevation at that spot.
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  11. thouk

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    RichC,
    City navigator was already loaded onto the zumo directly. I used mapsource to load the topo onto a card seperately. When I put the card into the zumo all the zumo shows is the city navigator maps as an option. It does not list the topo maps to be able to view. I am trying to reload the topo maps onto a card to see if it got messed up loading it onto the card. Thanks for all the help guys. Tony
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Your TOPOs are on the SD Card yes but they need to be "imported" into the Garmin directory as a Supplement Map Set. Go to the "Tools->User Data->Import Data->Select your Maps and the zumo will do the rest.

    You will end up with a file (gmapsupp.img) in the zumo's "\Garmin" directory. This file contains all of the additional Garmin/other map sets.
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  13. thouk

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    DrtByk,
    Thanks. Once I get all the files reloaded onto the card I will have my Pops do that. Why does it take sooooooo long to load two gigs of stuff? It has been a number of hours to load the maps. Thanks, Tony
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    MapSource does two steps in preparing your maps to be sent. First, it creates an Index file. Second, it compresses the map data and last it sends the compressed data set/index file to the SDCard (if no SDCard they get sent to the ZUMO onboard storage if there is enough room.

    I see I must correct my earlier description:

    Once you load the map sets to the SD Card one of two processes will take place.

    1. If you loaded directly to the SD Card with no GPS attached, when you plug that card into the Garmin it will see the new data and ask if you want to Import it. You have the option of saying NO and doing that import later.

    2. If you uploaded the maps with the ZUMO plugged in it would again have loaded them directly to the SD Card and when you unplug the ZUMO from the PC the ZUMO will reboot and automatically IMPORT your data. Either way, you will then see your additional Map sets by going to Tools->Maps->Map Info

    The file that is created in the ZUMO\Garmin directory (gmapsupp.img) is created only if there is sufficient space for all of the imported Maps. The maps on the SDCard are in \Garmin\gmapsupp.img.
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  15. thouk

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    Drtbyk,
    Is there any way to speed up the loading of maps to the cards? It has been loading the topo maps to the card all day. Thanks for the help!!! Tony
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  16. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Well, there are several variables that might speed it up some: faster CPU speed, more RAM, SDHC card (writes faster), USB 2.0 Port, just to name a few.

    I don't know how much Map data you are trying to load but as a reference, I uploaded Garmin "Western US TOPO's" and the Western US "Recreational Lakes and Fishing Hot Spots" maps (794MB) and it took about an hour. About 3/5 of the time is spent by MapSource building the Map Set for the GPS then the remainder is actual upload time.
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    thouk Been here awhile

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    Drtbyk,
    Well I am running one of the new Gateway cx210x with 2 gig of ram with a Dual core 2 1.83 processor. The only thing that I think is slowing me down is the card. I have a sd adapter built into the computer so it should be usb2 with I don't think the card is. I am loading all of the topo maps onto one card, east, west, Alaska and Hawaii. It was like 1746 megs. So it was less then 2 gigs. It has taken all day to load the stuff. Hopefully when I get home this morning I can try what you talked about and get them to display on my Pop's zumo. What is weird is that I can load all the maps on a compact flash card and load them into my 2610 and I see them right away. Oh well the road goes on. Thanks again for all your help. May the miles be fun, Tony
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    Tony,

    Don't know if you got your topo/Zumo problem solved. If you didn't, try posting it here http://www.zumoforums.com/zumo/
    It's a forum dedicated to only the Zumo.
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    RichC and Drtbyk,
    Well I got home this morning and I noticed that the card was finished loading. I placed it into the unit and nothing. I took a nap. You know it is always better to sleep on things. No I have a crook in my side from sleeping on the zumo. Or was I not supposed to do that. Well I woke up and used a car from my camera. It is a 512 meg card. I just loaded the Alaska part. It finished in about ten minutes. As soon as I placed it in the zumo it recognised it. I am now wondering if it is the card? Thanks for all the help everyone. Tony
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  20. Hermit

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    May not be the card. I tried to load the entire US Road and Rec to a 1 gig SD card the first time it did not see it at all and the second time looked like it only had the major HW's and not the city streets. When I just loaded minnesota it worked fine showing all the roads.

    Does anyone have the entire US loaded using TOPO or Roads and Rec?
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