ZUMO user who use earbuds & need a mic only

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  1. onebaduce

    onebaduce .

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    Trying to find a microphone only was next to impossible. I Love my Shure E3c's and couldn't get myself to butcher a complete headphone set just to get a mic.. Well I spoke to Ed at Edsets and he made a custom cable a couple times for some Zumo guys in the same predicament. I just ordered one and he made it a standard item on the website now under "Zumo Microphone For Helmet" you can order a surface mount mic or a boom. :clap finally can use my bluetooth

    http://www.edsets.com/?af=bailey

    Will post results after I get it.

    standard disclaimers apply, I never used Edsets before and have no affiliation YMMV

    Joe
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    mrudy "Let's Ride"

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    Thanks, Joe, for the info. I'm anxious to see how this turns out.
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  3. jstcrashnthru

    jstcrashnthru Livin' the dream

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    I ordered one from him about a month ago. After several e-mails back and forth, we got it sorted. Here's the one I ordered.

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    Surface mount, 2.5mm mono male end, 6 foot length.

    In the garage with the bike running (no test riding yet...the weather is shit right now) it sounds good. As soon as the weather clears a bit I'll give it a proper test.
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  4. onebaduce

    onebaduce .

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    Cool I ordered the tab mount boom mic. We'll have a review on both styles!
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  6. Behindbars

    Behindbars Let's Ride

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    Joe, you got results yet? I think I need one of these.
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    Nanuq Aventurer by Trade

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    I'm looking forward to your review.
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  8. onebaduce

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    Sorry for the Delay guys...

    Ok the microphone itself is first rate. Nice quality feels sturdy. And it's bigger then I expected. I ordered the Tab mounted version. I ships with a wind sock and a velcro pad to mount it too. I didn't need it. I just removed my left side cheek pad, put my helmet on, held the mic in place and moved it in or out until I was happy with the location. then snapped down my cheek pad and it's not going anywhere. Real nice quality goose neck moves up and away very nice and seems like it will take that repetitive motion for a long time to come.

    The molex connector is right under the left side of my helmet now. I can easily snap the mic cord in and out. The cord was not long enough to run down your jacket then under tank bag and into cradle without seriously restricting your saddle movement (ie no standing) So I will probably make a semi permanent cord with a 2.5mm jack on the cradle end and run it neatly into my 950's glove box and just leave a female socket hanging out like I do now with the audio out for my Shure E3C earplugs.

    Ok call quality. The mic when right on your lips when inside the helmet is totally incoherent. I called my answering machine in the house and couldn't understand a word. Ok helemt flip up, mic away about an inch from my mouth ...perfect! sounded great. Doesn;t help for in helmet calls though. So my sister was my guinea pig. I would move mic around inside the helemt as I spoke and also rode at different speeds. Some results were good some were bad.

    I think part of the blame is my phone itself it's a Verizon waterproof flip(the G'eez or gezz or Giz LOL) and the bluetooth always connects and never drops but thats it. no phone book loads or anything else. I suspect its the weak link. Also the call audio was dropping out and I had to ask my sister to repeat what she said a few times as I rode. I also made a voicemail to a buddy's cell and he couldn't understand a word I said. I was going 60 mph or so when I made it. So I think a Motorola phone or one tested that loads everything and has a strong bluetooth output will fair better.

    For stopping by the road and making a quick call or being at a stop light and making a quick call its awesome. Results are still out though and until I get a new phone I won't really be making to many at speed in helmet calls.

    YMMV

    Joe
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  9. Behindbars

    Behindbars Let's Ride

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    Thanks for the report. Useful.
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    Thank-you for the thorough report!:clap
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  11. ECM

    ECM Been here awhile

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    Witch of the 3 types would you recommend for a Shuberth C2 flip helmet??
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  12. onebaduce

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    I have a Caberg Justissimo GT and I assumed the tab mount would work out, and it did! (phew) Not familiar with your helmet so I can't recommend which one for you. IF yours is like mine in that the cheek pads snap on I was able to lay the tab under the pad lay the short molex wire down so it hung where I wanted it too and then snap the pad back on. The surface mount seems so permanent and looked like I would have had too carve it into the chin pad area so that was out. Just look at your own helmet you'll be able to determine which one.

    Joe
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  13. ECM

    ECM Been here awhile

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    Thanks.

    But my problem is now a little of your language, so I don't know what the "tab" in tabmount is.
    Any pictures of it??
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  14. onebaduce

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    [​IMG]

    Not my language it's edsets, pretty self expanitory from the website. One has a "tab" with the molex connector one has and RCA connector and no tab.
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  15. ECM

    ECM Been here awhile

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    Thanks. I missed that one (and pictures tell better stories). As for the language; I am Dutch, but am able to understand 99% of your language. This one was the 1% bit :evil
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  16. ECM

    ECM Been here awhile

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    Ordered the Edsets mike today. Now lets see if I can get it to work :1drink
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  17. ECM

    ECM Been here awhile

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    For the Audio part, I combined my Etymotic 6i with my molded earprotections. Works like a charm! You can simply plug the Etymotics in the tube of the earpieces.

    Custom made hifi earbuds!

    [​IMG]
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  18. jstcrashnthru

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    My review of Edsets mic for the Zumo.

    Well, the weather finally broke here and I was able to get some miles on my bike and test out the mic.

    The bike:
    2007 DL1000 V-Strom
    Suzuki gel seat
    Alaska Leather sheepskin buttpad
    Stock handlebars
    Gen Mar bar risers (1" up and 1.5 back if I remember right)
    Givi windscreen
    MadStad adjustable windscreen mount
    Mount in the middle position, windscreen adjusted all the way down and raked all the way back

    The helmet:
    Arai Profile
    Mic mounted in the chinbar just below the front vent. This places the mic a tad below my mouth.
    Testing was done with the "chin curtain" left up and deployed (down). Results were a tad better with it down. But the difference was not huge.

    The phone:
    LGVX8100 on the Verizon network

    Me:
    5'11" and 155#

    Testing was done with the help of several very patient friends. Tests were run from a standstill with the motor running in traffic up to speeds of about 85mph.

    Seated:
    All in all...the mic works as it should. My friends said they could hear some background noise as the speeds increased. But they also said it was never worse than someone talking on a cell phone in a car with the window partially open. I could be heard clearly at all speeds. One person did note that there was a little echo. Not sure what was causing it.

    Standing:
    It works...mostly. Airflow and buffeting around my head and body was, of course, greatly increased by standing on the pegs. The chin curtain on my helmet made a significant difference here. Enough wind was deflected away from the chin area of the helmet that it made conversation possible. It wasn't as good as being seated, but it did work. Most people said it was like talking to someone walking around outside in a heavy wind. It was annoying, but I could still be understood. I could make it a little better if I moved my head and body around a bit to get a little cleaner airflow.

    There you have it. For me it's a keeper.
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  19. onebaduce

    onebaduce .

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    What version software on your Zumo? Did you update the bluetooth version (3.0 I think is the newest) Wondering if it's that because some people have reported issues with it and revert back to the old siftware and it clears up the issues. Just asking because I'm wondering still if it's my phone that sucks or the software is the culprit.

    I'll see how ECM's report is on it once he chimes in.

    Joe
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  20. jstcrashnthru

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    I am using the Bluetooth 3.0. But I may try rolling it back and see if makes any difference. The echo only happened to one person I was talking to.
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