ZUMO user who use earbuds & need a mic only

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  1. ECM

    ECM Been here awhile

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    I got it mounted yesterday. The fitting in my Shuberth C2 was quite easy.(got pictures of it, but for now I am too lazy to post them)

    For the postive news:
    Testing proved that the audibility together with my Eatymotic E6 was very good. The persons I called could understand me fine as well

    (Bike being a BMW GSA + C2 helmet makes a relative silent set up).
    Speeds up to 120km/h were tested, with some side winds to add the windnoise.
    Test succeeded!!!

    For the negative side:
    The cable supplied with the mike was too long and too thick. Echo's were heared as well. Maybe that was due to the fact that I folded a bit of the cable (more testing needed) .

    For the realy negative side:
    Totaly unhappy with all these cables!!! Too long, too thick, too clumsy hanging from your ears and helmet. Now I got to find a solution for that. Maybe I should have chosen a boom mike instead of a stick on type :-(
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  2. jstcrashnthru

    jstcrashnthru Livin' the dream

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    I don't think boom mic will help with the cable issue. You'll still have a cable going from your mic to the Zumo.

    Another option to eliminate the cable when you don't need the mic is to use a cable stay (clips, holders, whatever the local electronics place calls them) on the mic side of the molex connector. Then you can just unplug the molex connector and stash the cord.
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  3. ECM

    ECM Been here awhile

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    I got arround to build in the microphone.
    Unfortunately our lovely customs thougth they had to double the price with some sort of tax.. :-\ . More then pitty that mr Ed does not have a distributor in Europe..

    Anyway here is how it is installed in my Shuberth C2 flip helmet

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    I just took the chin part off for easy acces. No big deal to that.

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    Microphone plus wiring got plenty of room in the chinpart. The wire can simply be tugged between the lining.

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    After assembly (sticked on with supplied Velcro). Ps: Never put your mike straight in front of your mouth. Saves the caller some "splashing" sounds :wink:

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    I still have to work on extending the litte wire to the side. Now it is connecting on the flip part, so the cable to the Zumo moves up as well :-\
    I also need to shorten the rather long (and firm) cable to the Zumo by about 30 inches.

    Fieldtesting with this setup:
    Together with my modified Etymotics speakers in custom molded earpieces, the voice clarity could not be better!! Callers could hear me very well as well, up to highwayspeeds of 120 km / h (90 miles I think). At first the wired connection gave a lot of crackling over the line. Cleaning the Zumo's mike input solved that.

    All in all, it is working fine! Now I just need to get these cables sorted...
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  4. number9

    number9 Been here awhile

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    Very interesting - thanks for the pics. So, what is the diameter and thickness of the mic? Looks like the cable from the mic needs to be a bit longer....maybe if I ever order one, I'll measure and ask to have it a certain length.....and the mic to gps cable a certain length as well...... IF he'd do that.

    ...
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  5. jstcrashnthru

    jstcrashnthru Livin' the dream

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    He was very good to deal with when I had him make up my mic for me. The standard Zumo mic that he now offers comes with a 30" cable. I think you could probably order up any length of cable you wanted. Just shoot him an e-mail.
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  6. Downs

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    Diggin up an old thread here but I've got mine installed and have made one test call so far.

    At first I tried as described just above and placed the mic to one side of my chin bar. At a standstill that worked just fine but at any speeds over 20MPH or so they couldn't hear a word I was saying.

    Going to try moving it around some and see how that works by calling my voice mailbox. I don't want to subject anyone else to the wind noise lol:thumb
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  7. VStromNC

    VStromNC DNS/DNF

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    Of course, you could have ordered a Microphone made for the Zumo directly from Garmin. This is what I am using with the ER6i headphones. The microphone comes with various tabs and hooks so that you can install to a helmet plus it comes with a 6' cable and is specifically made to be used with your Bluetooth phone and plugs in directly to the Zumo cradle.

    http://www.gpsnow.com/garmin_010-10804-00.htm

    Jon
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  8. VStromNC

    VStromNC DNS/DNF

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    Failed to mention that the clip mount and a flat surface mount brackets employs ball and socket mounting arrangement so that the protruding ball from the mounts allow the microphone, with a female socket mount, to simply clip and lock in place which makes for very easy microphone removal w/ wire when not being used. The bracket stays in place but you can simply unplug the microphone and the wire.

    Jon
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  9. Downs

    Downs KK6RBI

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    How well does the garmin unit work on a motorcycle at speed? The website only mentions using it in a car.
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  10. VStromNC

    VStromNC DNS/DNF

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    Correct, not specifically made for bikes but it works. Placement of mic is critical. Worked OK for me as I could carry on a conversation.
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  11. VStromNC

    VStromNC DNS/DNF

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    Here's my setup.

    Zumo 550 with Cell Phone via Bluetooth and MP3 via Amplirider w/ Volume Control listening through Etymotic ER6i. Amplirider is battery pack powered using a battery pack w/ on&off switch from Radio Shack. AA battery will last about 18 hours of normal to loud listening before needing to be recharged or replaced. I use Nicad batterys and charge on board when not using with Cig Lighter AC Adaptor shown.

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    The Amplirider is on the left side and the battery pack to the right. Notice the Amplirider volume control on the right side pocket. I use it to control the volume on the fly for my cell calls or MP3 music.



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    Mic and ER6i headphone. The flat tab for the mic holder is normally velcro'd to my hemet chin area but for this purpose, you can see the ball and socket mounting arrangement of the mic to the holder. I simply unclip and put everything back into my tank bag when not in use.

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    Jon
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  12. Downs

    Downs KK6RBI

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    What kind of speeds are we talking? I've tried my EDsets mic in various places on the chinbar and while some places work better than others I've been unable to carry on a conversation above 35 or so miles per hour in any position on the chinbar. I can hear them just fine but I come though all garbled with alots of wind noise.

    My helmet is in the wind though as I don't have a huge windscreen and I have to wonder if the mic is picking up the vibration of the helmet as air moves past it.
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  13. PhilSpace

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    I use a Starcom headset with their adapter cable that plugs directly into the zumo, no intercom. Works like a champ.

    They sell headsets for both full and openface/flip up helmets that come with just a mic and a jack for earbuds. I use Etymotic ER-6's work like a champ with it.
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  14. VStromNC

    VStromNC DNS/DNF

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    Helmet type may also be critical. I wear a full face dual sport helmet which has a thick chin bar and also controls the noise fairly well. It is not the 2 piece flip up type. I have it mounted on the front of the chin bar but mounted up so that wind noise will not be a big factor. You might also want to add a piece of sponge or foam to block the wind noise. If I have my visor open, I cannot talk on it due to all the wind noise. I am not sure about your mic but the one from Garmin works fairly well.

    I am not real keen on taking phone calls while riding in anything technical but will take calls and make calls if I am super slabbing. I also found out that it is also a good commuication device if your riding buddy has a similar setup. Lot better than range limited Bluetooth or 2 way Radios.

    Jon
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  15. PhilSpace

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    They key to all that is a quality noise canceling mic that is placed perfectly and practice in using it.
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  16. daGeeeze

    daGeeeze Geeezed lightning

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    Once upon a time you could go into most drugstores or clothing stores and buy those really long fat goofy looking shoelaces. They're essentially a hollow tube. If they're big enough you can slide cables through the inside to keep them more organized.

    One day I'm going to make an adapter cable to go from the Zumo to the back of my tank just behind my tank bag. I want a 4 connector single plug socket there. Then I want a retractable spool setup with another straight 4 connector male plug to go into that. The retractor would keep the cable pulled up so that I could stand or sit without the cable flying. Then I'd want it so I could plug my ear buds into it as well as a microphone.

    If Garmin would standardize their plug setups maybe someone could make a nice moulded plug that screws to the side of the bike mount and leads down cleanly to the kind of tank cable I want.

    The one thing stopping me from trying to make all this stuff is my desire to go bluetooth instead of hardwired. People keep coming out with things that almost work and I keep foolishly buying and trying them. Ever hopeful.
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