The Shortypants Thread: We are short women and this is what we ride

A bike that I have always thought would make a great learner bike, and all around bike for shorter people, is the Beta Alp. They make the same model(same rough bodywork, anyway) with several different engines in it, all Suzukis - 125, 200, and the "4.0" which is a 350 in reality. The smaller models have a very trials-bike like set of geometry, and even come with trials tires in stock trim, so I don't think they would lend themselves to a lot of riding here in the US due to engine size as well as handling. The 4.0, though, has some real potential. But unfortunately, there is some sort of trade agreement such that they cannot sell them in the US - only Canada and Mexico on the NA continent. Strange, and a loss to all IMO. Here is a pic and link to info on the Alp 4.0:



...which is essentially a DR350S engine(with, yes, a magic button) in a small-ish chassis with about ~8" of travel on both ends - essentially what most people are modifying so many other bikes to be. Note the slim ergonomics, low-cut seat and bar-to-peg relationship nearly identical to a full-size bike. Stripped of most of it's street-oriented stuff it is/would be a capable bike off road, with some of the same compromises as any other "standard" size bike that has been lowered 4"+, but it comes that way right out of the crate.

More info here: http://www.betamotor.com/en/alp/bikes/alp-4-0-2008

We never get the good bikes in the US. That sounds perfect!

I ran into this one during my research as well.



The Scorpa T-ride. Same situation, none in the US.

+1 :huh

And they say it is always steeper than it looks. :eek1 That there scares the shit out of me.

I have only ridden with Lori one up at the moto cross track and YES, she kicked my ass.

Marc

Hi! Thanks for the suggestions of the CRF230 or KL 250... I will try to see if they are even available in Alberta (most dealers are still selling sleds and aren't switched over to bikes- that may be May at the rate the snow is falling!LOL). They do have a Suzuki DR200SE at the local shop for under $4000. Is it worth a look? I am short but also 55 years old & I don't flex quite as well as I did 20 years ago.
We are unfamiliar with the Beta-Alp & Scorpa T-ride. If they are available in Canada we haven't heard of them previously.

I own a KLX250S and rented a DR200 in Guatemala for a week recently. There's no comparison - the KLX does everything better, although it's a couple inches taller. The DR200 runs out of steam well before highway speeds and the suspension isn't even close to the KLX. I don't know what the KLX goes for in Canada, but here in the US there are brand new left over '09s going for $3500 out the door and you can buy a used '09 with under 1000 miles for $2500. The only thing the DR200 has going for it is it's low seat height in stock form. The KLX would probably require a bit of lowering and a shaved seat.

One of the reasons I was considering the DR 200 was the price. A KLX250 I just looked up was "reduced" to $5900. Plus the cost of modifications for my short stature. This is a bit of a experiment for me to go back to 2 wheels after riding with sidecar rig as well as to dirt/trail riding vs highway. Maybe with some patience a used KLX will become available. At this point I just want the snow to be GONE!!!

KLX = the new Kawasaki 250.

KL = Super Sherpa, older, lower, smaller framed Kawasaki 250

Nice Lori!

Stay tuned everybody...

Short girl rides a tall bike episode one will happen tomorrow.

That looks like a great bike to me!
I have no problem with height as I am 6 foot tall, but always thought dual sports are way over suspended and would do much better if they had 6 or maybe 8 inches of travel and were lower to the ground, lower center of gravity and no so far to fall when you dump it.
People seem to want motocross bikes as dual sports to handle those 30 foot jumps I guess...
350cc is perfect, not too heavy, enough power for the street, torque off road to make things easy...

Instead we get large 500 pound motocross bikes or 200cc bikes....

The XT225 would seem to fit that bill, but Bonnie's biggest complaint with it is that it's way under-suspended.

Better fork springs, cartridge emulators, and a good rear shock might help.

If you really want to get wild and crazy, put a better set of front forks on.

That's essentially why I ended up with my KLX 250 this time around... The USD forks aren't the greatest (especially when i unfairly compare it to my KTMs), but it's definitely a lot stiffer and more plush than the XT225. I think a set of emulaters would make it pretty darn perfect. Mine handled gravel and babyhead rocks pretty admirably last weekend. Figured I'd throw it out there.

FWIW, the KLX 250 reminds me a lot of the old XT... same "friendly" disposition. First gear pretty much rocks my world. I can tractor up anything without losing steam and it's got enough speed in that gear to actually make it up stuff. I dig it quite a bit! After the 351 kit I might have actually found MY perfect bike!

Even lowered, Bonnie's WR250r has much better suspension than the XT. But the bike is pretty heavy for her for more difficult off road. She's using it more like a RFS-sized Adventure bike. For that, for her size, it is perfect.

Would it have been the preferred bike for the Pallapa Chair ride through Baja? Preferable, for her, to the XT225?

Oh yeah. Much better in sand, on fast but rough roads, and on the highway miles we did. She would have been faster and more comfortable, for sure.

That Drop scares the hell out of me every time!


Jen...You'll ALWAYS be a GIANT in my book!