Xt250 or ttr250 for the rotund rider

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  1. Steiglitz

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    Hi all, looking to do a bit more off road exploring than my VTR250 likes. Nothing overly ambitious. Took a Himalayan out for a test ride but just didn't gel with it. Looking at either a xt250 or TTR 250, just wondering if the xt can manage with my 90kg of bioprene or would the ttr be better. Happy just plodding along off road but do need to be able to do some stints at a 100kmh on road. I know there's better bikes out there but need opinions on these 2 specifically.
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  2. sidetrack one

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    Have one of each in the shed,based on your description I would think the XT would be the one for you,great little bike!
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  3. Steiglitz

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    So the xt250 is capable of my weight? Have to admit I prefer the looks of the xt over the ttr. Thanks for the reply
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    sidetrack one Chief Tiddler Supporter

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    Over 100kgs here in riding gear,its my partners bike but every time I've ridden it,hauls me along just fine!
    The TTR is a much more serious dirt.bike!:evil
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  5. Steiglitz

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    Hey again
    Out of curiosity, what's the ttr like for commuting and as a little adventure bike? Is it noticeably more powerful than the xt?
    Thanks
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  7. Steiglitz

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    Your not helping with my choice :)
    How long did it take? SA looks like it has great riding there, including beaches. Actually, if our lockdown continues as predicted, the decision will be out of my hand....the TTR is inspectable now,the xt when lockdown finishes
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    Steiglitz,
    You mentioned weight but not height. Seat height quite a bit higher on the TTR than XT which might have some impact on decision
    I think the XT would be a better commute/toodle around bike but as Sidetrack One says, the TTR is a great mini adventure bike
    Have seen a good looking TTR on Gumtree in Sydney ATM (not related to seller in any way) if that’s of any interest
    Good luck with whichever you choose. Both great bikes
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  9. Steiglitz

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    Hi there,
    I'm about 5'9ish but figure bike will sag a bit under me. Cheers for the heads up re gumtree
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  10. GodSilla

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    The TTR is a ripper little bike that Yamaha could still be selling in droves but for the ADR's killing most air-cooled bikes (noise mostly).
    About the best thing I could say comparing the XT is the XT likely has a comfier and slightly lower seat.
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  11. tripodtiger

    tripodtiger Off riding around on bitumen circles.

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    I'm a bit smitten by my little TTR. Tiddler Tenere, Really.

    I'm over 100kg. Then add riding gear and lunch. So far, I've ridden return trips to Phillip Island, Mt Gambier, Mt Hope and quite of lot of day & overnight rides.
    I've fiddled with the gearing. 15/49 I think at the moment - seems about perfect as it will hold 6th but still climb rocky hills.
    It will rev it's head off all day - there have been times when I've sat on the freeway. Yep, keep an eye in the rv mirror for semis but, it's really happy around 95-105 depending on gradient.
    The benefit of the TTR is that the XR250 Acerbis tank fits and there is a group/company in UK (Totally TTRs) that can help with basically anything, including cool aftermarket parts that fix some problems.
    I had a wider seat made and reckon I don't really need the airseat.
    I like it so much I can't see the reason to go back to a bigger all roads bike. Just find slower roads.

    There's even a 350 kit available. Yeah, not cheap and I've got too many projects on the go already.


    EDIT. in the negative, you can't buy a TTR that is as new as an XT.
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  12. Hoots

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    WR250R is the other obvious choice here ...

    Not sure why not in the mix ...
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    tripodtiger Off riding around on bitumen circles.

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    $ ??
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    Price?

    And I think I would prefer a TTR for off road, but A WRr over an XT. Has the WRr got a higher seat than the TTR? I know they are pretty tall.
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  15. Steiglitz

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    Hi
    Wr wasn't in the mix as a ttr and xt came up for sale in my area so was curious about those 2 specifically. The wr seems to get everyones thumbs up across the forums. I only took up motorcycling recently in my early 50s and was actually quite interested in a Himalayan to plod around on, Go prospecting on and occasional camping but both times I rode one, just didnt gel. The xt always grabbed my attention as a good offroad plod along bike with it's height and weight but the extra power off the ttr keeps calling me as well. Down the track, a klr 650 maybe on the horizon but for the next 12 months, a cheaper bike will have to do. I've still got my VTR250 I learnt on, and that does fine for 100+ kmh stints, she just doesn't like my off road exploring.
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  16. Hoots

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    Have you twigged to the difference between the WR250R and the WR250F ... ?

    The WR250R is the ADV bike - long service intervals (10,000 km?) and great for everything from plodding about to long distance touring - taller than an XT, but much better suspension - really innovative in its time

    The WR250F has absolutely none of the same components - despite the name ... it's a competitive enduro, and essentially the YZ250F cross-country race bike with lights ... very short service intervals (only has 750ml oil), tall and not easy to ride ... not an ADV bike, although earlier model WRFs were better suited to this

    Apologies if you already knew this ... :-)
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    A WR250r would be my pick of any adv bike for a round the world trip. Bulletproof motor with titanium inlet and outlet valves etc with a elec system that can power anything.
    It's a 1/4 of an R1 engine shoehorned into a dirtbike.
    Height is 930mm seat height.
    Has adjustable suspension
    100k engine life, valves etc at 40k kms.
    Works great when flogged thro the sweetest gearbox as power is highup on the rev range.
    A bit pricier but well worth it.
    I have flogged it 30k kms in the most desolate deserts of Australia and only one nut ever came loose( they are tightened by gorrillas)
    Has a XT660r and a Older Tenere XT600z .
    This WR250r was light years ahead of both these.
    If I had the choice of owning one do all bike it would be the WR250R.
    Lots of pretty well priced models keep cropping up on the internet.
    Good luck in your decision.
    I am only 66 kgs and the WR is built for 2 people with rear footrest and steel subframe so should be good for 120kgs..
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    Now, if I updated to a WRR....
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  19. Steiglitz

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    Wr is above my pay grade for the time being :)
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  20. Hoots

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    Wrong colour, but another option in this segment is the new CRF300L / 300 rally

    Not an expensive bike - and the 250 version it replaces were a good thing - the L version and the rally

    The KLX250 is another possibility, and similar bracket to the XT

    The DRZ400E in stock form is more trailie, but a lot of people do big trips on them - bombproof motors - recent MAD-TV 'Tropical Punch' series features two Husky 701s doing a multi-thousand km trip across northern Aus - but in the background is a little posse of DRZs - in fact the lead bike was a DRZ ...

    Lots of possibilities in this segment ...
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