“2010 Forever West” Featuring The Best Of The West On Big Trailies

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by DockingPilot, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. 5 speed

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    Sand picture makes a certain orifice pucker when thinking about crossing on a big bike, doesnt it? :rofl

    By the way, I two have read this one report about 5 times and now am hoping to do a similar trip and have been in touch with Tony. We appreciate you guys!
  2. redwards

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    Looks like an amazing adventure! Wondering if anyone wished they were on a different bike? R1200gs too big? F800gs just right? Thoughts? Could/would a 650 Vstrom do the trick? Thanks!
  3. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Nope. All bikes were fine. You can pm me for details.
  4. ieatcrayons

    ieatcrayons Adventurer

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    i second everyone one else who has said what a great trip report this is. i will also ask if you take another trip post a link to it here that way i can follow it also! =)
  5. byways

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    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=845500
    In developing what was then called Forever West for DP and his group in 2009-2010, I made multiple extended trips to South Pass, where I'd worked on construction of the highway's Sweetwater River bridge when my wife and I lived in Lander.

    The purposes were to find new routing for DP's group on the South Pass segment; pre-run and photograph those segments as well as Great Divide Route/CDT segments; record waypoints and live tracks; get photos for them in advance of their trip; scout a better way to gas at Farson; and to help DP obtain permission from landowners for the group to cross private land. (Crossing that private land turned out to be unnecessary, and is the inferior way, anyway.)

    I didn't make use of Cannonshot's work on South Pass, where I have a long history and which I visit several times a year; nor does Heart of the West ADV Route, the contemporary progeny of FW. If FW did so, that's news to me. (Parting of the Ways is a well-known and signed historic site.)

    H.o.W., for riders who are considering it, omits the old South Pass track across private land that I recorded -- with the landowners' permission -- for DP's group.

    H.o.W. instead takes travelers across South Pass on remote, authentic Oregon Trail segments across public lands. You've no concern about trespassing. And you can be sure I was there ...
  6. rbsride365

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    This is now on my short list. I'm been looking for something epic that I can maybe share with family and doesn't require a month to do. I have a few riding friends that are in the same stage of life that I am and using all of our vacation time away from wife and children isn't reasonable. It's still a year or two out but... I have a couple of questions. I'm assuming from the description and pictures that a well set up 650 Vstrom should be more than capable of making this trip? Another thought was that I have a family with two younger children and don't make tons of money or have endless amounts of vacation time. This seems like something I could include everyone in and also turn it into a history lesson. As far as 4 wheel travel is there any reason that a newer Subaru Outback shouldn't be able to make it through most of this if my wife and kids were traveling along ahead or behind with minimal rerouting if necessary?
  7. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Thanks!
    Yes. It could do it as long as it's dry. The ground that is. I own a Forester so I know it's capabilities. Just pm me or email me (nydockingpilot at gee mail dot com ) for any further info you may want.
    Frank


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    Thanks Frank! I'll get in touch once I do a little more planning. Seems like you understand exactly what I'm thinking about doing!
  9. achesley

    achesley Old Motorcyclist

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    :clap:clap:clap Don't know how I missed this report first time around???? Amazing views of the West! Some of the places brought back fond memories of some of my travels. touching parts of these famous trails here and there. At times, just sitting by a small campfire, pondering on the explorers of old. How many remains scattered about these trails without a trace. Being a slave to my passion for traveling solo and on the roads less traveled. I used extreme caution.

    Thanks for all the work and time to share this journey. I know, that also, is very time consuming:clap:clap:clap.
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  11. bigborefan

    bigborefan Making new friends

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    Kicking this around for fall 2015. Last few years life has conspired against me for any big rides.

    I can take a 950 ADV or a 950 SE. I really, really like my SE.

    My buddy has a 990 ADV, but he really doesn't like it on more challenging stuff. He's a good rider, but just doesn't like the 990 on gravel. It's just not comfortable to him. I have told him from what I can tell this trip is a very, very big bike friendly trip, assuming it's not muddy? Am I correct in that?

    Also, what temps could one expect on this trip? We would like to camp a few nights, then get a room every third night or so. I assume a wide range of temps? Hotel reservations are highly recommended I assume?

    Our plan would be to trailer out to CO, jump on the loop there. We could commit 12 days to the ride. I think 14 is recommended. My thought is we do a few long days to make up some time.

    Thoughts, suggestions?
  12. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    A lot of variables. I'll go over it all with you. Email me at Nydockingpilot at g mail dot com


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    I'm sure we'd all like to hear that discussion.
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    Time of year will greatly affect weather.

    I have to work around Red Bud MotoGp and Crawfordsville....

    Sigh

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    Late summer / fall is your best bet.



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    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Lol
    Just that we prefer sept. Out there For the best chances of dry weather.
    Also yes big bikes are doable. We had a GSA loaded to the gills and he had no issues. But he is a good rider.
    Let's see what else. …
    We going back out to Idaho this Sept. For a Idaho/Montana 2 week trip which looks like it could be the best ever yet !


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    Whatever Tony put together for you Frank will be epic.
  19. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    This is something else we put together ourselves. A mix of the IBDR, Big. dogs Idaho tracks and the very best of mine from 06'. Kinda lke the best of the best.


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  20. TxTiger

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    We trailered to Oak Creek Colorado, and stayed at the Oak Creek Motel, where the owner let us park our truck and trailer there for the duration of the ride for $2 a day. Privately owned placed and seems very secure. The rooms were nice and reasonable. Oak Creek is on the Alt 09 tract. So we gassed up and made Dinosaur National Monument the first day, 225 miles and 9 hrs.

    Temps did vary, primarily based on elevation. One morning when camping at 10,000 feet, it was 31 degrees, not too bad. I took a zero degree down bag with an R5 pad and got hot when I was fully enclosed. But I would take that again because I hate to be cold.

    My advice on the time you can allocate for the ride is to eliminate a tract or so rather than pushing it. It's tough to stay on a time schedule since many variables can effect your time. Weather, road conditions, mechanical issues, etc. We were on the trail for 17 days and did not get to ride the last 3 tracks due to weather. Of the 17 days we stayed in motels 4 or 5 days, and never had an issue getting rooms. We found the state parks nice in that they had running hot and cold water and decent restrooms/showers. I washed my base layers in a soft sided cooler when I showered, and then hung the stuff on a paracord line to dry by camp.

    The National Park campsites were ok, more private and remote, generally only had one source of water that gets cut off around the middle of September, but most had nice fire rings and a picnic table.

    As DP said, big bikes will do fine, but there were areas where prior rains had made some roads very challenging, regardless of what you were riding. With respect to your friend and not liking gravel, there is a lot of gravel roads you will be on. My bike felt very loose on these as weighted down as I was but you just let it move around under you and get used to it pretty quick. When you got to the deep sandy areas you actually appreciated the gravel.

    The muddy areas can be very challenging. Just study Tony's tracts and he highlights the bad areas. I did this plus read every ride report I could to get a feel for the ride. From reading, we knew the area between Rangely and DNM was really bad when wet, with heavy sticky mud that you have to clean off just to keep going. So we would watch the bad areas along with the forecast and plan accordingly.

    This is a great ride and it is very doable on just about any DS bike and any rider skill level. You will have a great time.
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