$1000 brand new semi-trials bike?

Discussion in 'Trials' started by motodojo, May 24, 2019.

  1. motodojo

    motodojo Been here awhile

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  2. Champe

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    Interesting. 21" wheels front and back.
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    I'm skeptical...
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    158lbs.
    Looks like it should be half that weight.
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    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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    So what makes it "semi-trials"?
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  7. Huzband

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    Looks like a heavy duty mountain bike with a motor. Probably a fun play bike for anyone under 140#. I'd question its durability under heavyweight thrashing though.
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  8. motodojo

    motodojo Been here awhile

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    They say it can take a 200lb rider. I weigh 150 so it should be fine.
    I believe it is a Chinese copy of the FX Mountain Moto from New Zealand which range from $4500 to 12K.
    http://www.fxbikes.com
    The Orion looks similar to the first version of the FX which weighed 125lbs.
    fxbike.jpg
    The latest FX5 version weighs 132lbs and has trellis frame, trials Tech forks and motorcycle rims.

    I've always wanted a bike like the FX or Scorpa 4Tricks but didn't want to pay the equivalent to a used trials bike which is better.
    There is a wealth of information out there about hopping up pit bike engines and a 190cc engine will bolt right in.
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  10. motodojo

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    I haven't received it yet. The bike did an Evel Knievel tribute jump and didn't break in half in front of a big crowd a few months ago.
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  11. Huzband

    Huzband Team Dirt

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    :photog
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  12. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    I bought one, had it delivered to the 3-Step Hideaway last week where it will live. Dingweeds uncrated it while we were out riding Mobius 20. Orion ships it with a lightweight mineral oil which you're supposed to change out before starting it. Of course that "Starter Kit" box with the real oil and the mikuni carb upgrade wasn't on the skid, so it got run for 10 to 20 minutes with the lightweight oil (canola? olive? ) before we called them to ask about the carb and they said it's in the box with the oil and we said what oil?

    Anyway, we changed out the oil to some 10W40 and it seems no harm no foul. They confirmed that the head work was done though no real way to know, and they're sending out the carb upgrade, though I'm not sure it's really necessary. We went over all the bolts, and a fair number needed to be torqued, no big deal. The rear tube got a pinch flat as it came folded under the rim lock, but hey... it comes with rim locks, so that's cool. We thrashed it bushwhacking around the valley and up the back hill, and I decided to cut down the handlebars about an inch off each side. I took it on the 10 mile "intermediate, wink-wink" loop that Scott has across the road and rode it pretty hard, mostly 2nd & 3rd gear. It rides much more like a mountain bike than a dirt bike. What I mean by that is that I found it to be more fun to steer around baby-head sized rocks rather than to plow over them as I would with a properly suspended dirt bike with a steering damper. It has stiffish suspension without a ton of travel. It's super light, twitchy, narrow, but still very easy to control, especially at slow speeds. The engine is torquey and solid, it has appropriate power:weight and gearing ratios, and very easy to clutchless shift. (All control cables & levers needed to be adjusted a bit). It is nowhere near suspended well enough to be a proper trials bike. Mind you i'm no trials rider, but I did do the long weekend course at the Trials Training Center years ago. And to be fair, my dirt background has evolved from mountain bikes, so that is my point of reference.

    Here's what it is NOT: It is not a trials bike. It is not an enduro bike. It is not a race bike. It is not a performance bike.

    Here's what it IS: It is a hoot. It is a unique hybrid that is 1/2 mountain bike, 1/4 dirt bike, and 1/4 trials bike. It is a skill-building machine. Want to learn how to wheelie? to get sideways on a turn? to jump wet logs? to climb loose rocks? to do tight figure 8's at walking speed? to teach your spouse or kids? Get one of these and have at it. It is super simple. It appears to be solidly built and easy to maintain. It is about the most fun-per-dollar I have spent on motorcycles in a long time, possibly ever.

    Pretty sure I'm gonna buy a second one.
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  13. sanjoh

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    Do you think it will go 45mph on flat and level ground? Curious how they have it geared.
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  14. Brewtus

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    So, let me see if I understand this correctly. A brand-new bike came with loose bolts, some mystery cooking oil in the engine, a carburetor that doesn't work correctly, and a flat tire. :hmmmmm
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    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    And it was in a crate, not on a showroom floor!
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  16. motodojo

    motodojo Been here awhile

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    At least Dr. Rock got his bike. I ordered mine through Amazon, thinking it would be safer. The sellers storefront disappeared and now I don't think my bike will arrive. Ordered on 5-24 told would arrive 6-5. Didn't arrive then told 6-12 and still haven't arrived. Now I have to wait until 7-5 to get a refund.

    It is typical for Chinese engines to be filled with mystery oil just to keep it from rusting and you should check the carb and intake for metal shavings. You get what you pay for so everything should be checked. For a grand, corners are going to be cut. Expect the Mikuni carb to be a knockoff. Mine was supposed to come with a Nibbi racing carb which gets good reviews.
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    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    Was the storefront run by Orion? Or did you use the link to their site as a example of the product?
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  18. MATTY

    MATTY BORDER RAIDER

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    Crazy i know but this is how the chinese ship bikes, they have this crappy oil in them from the factory. and depending how good your importer is they may or may not put proper oil in it when the deliver it.
    No idea why they do this but its how they generally do things.
    The only chinas i have had dealings with are a ATV a PY90 clone a 100cc two stroke ATV super reliable that is. and a 150cc chinese CG 125 engine clone dirt bike .
    The PY was bought new by a mate and that came with this shipping oil in it as did the ATV. the 150 dirt bike was well used so not sure what it came with but imagine like the others shipping oil.
    The ATV is early 2000s and back then the wiring was at best average in quality. i rewired the bike with a load of wire striped out of a scrap car loom :lol2.
    ATV has been super reliable. I think overall the engines are good and though the frame tubes are thin walled tube they are generally quite strong.
    a 1000 dollar bike in a crate ? I supose you can not grumble if its shipping oil or not, you expect to set up the bike yourself i guess.
    I think if its anything like the china bikes i have encountered you will get some fun out of it for sure. my kids tried very hard to kill that old ATV and its syill running great to this day 15 years latter. admited with my home made wiring loom.
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  19. Brewtus

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    Thousand bucks for a notta-Trials bike. Some assembly, mandatory mods, and repairs required right out of the crate.

    I've owned dozens (and still have a few) genuine Trials bikes (used, don't kid yourselves) that required NONE of these mods/upgrades to be competition (!) ready right off the get-go, and didn't cost no thousand bucks either.

    Thread is advertised as a "semi-trials" bike. Sounds to me like 2 lies for the price of one. Embarrassing POS' of this ilk make me genuinely sad for the future of motorcycles in general, not to mention the future of what people will tolerate in a "brand-new" bike. :bluduh

    Christ, why do I bother with these shitheap bike threads, anyway....
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  20. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    ..."why do I bother"...

    Great question! Thanks! :photog
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