Thanks for everyone's input on this stuff. Seems like the shock bolt debate will go on forever I enjoy the BMW bikes and the dealer support. Unfortunately, I've broken a few things on my previous BMW G650X-C which was suppose to hold up to off-road riding. That ended up being a long expensive road as I continued to add stuff to beef it up. I'm now a bit shy about buying another BMW with a design that needs to be addressed the day I roll it off the show room floor. I bet the 800GS is an awesome bike for the intended purpose. I sure love the looks of the thing, especially the way it looks all loaded up and ready for an adventure. Just wish I had $75K I could throw at a custom bike that was 300lbs, with ABS, cruise control, luggage, and could handle a super cross track.