17" dual sport tires ?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by synthnut, Jul 23, 2007.

  1. synthnut

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    I just can't help but look at various bikes, and think.."hey, this bike looks like it could do just fine off road, or at least on some dirt or gravel roads " ......Like looking at the new Kawi Versys ....It's tall , looks the part , and might just be fun on the back roads ....Does ANYBODY make a 17 inch dual sport tire ???....Thanks, Jim
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  2. Hughlysses

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    Search through the Uly alternative tire threads previously posted here. The OEM Dunlops (06 models) or Pirelli Scorpion Syncs (07 & 08 models) are good for dirt or gravel roads, but they aren't really dual sport tires. People have found a few alternative tires that are a little more dirt-oriented, but so far, the available tires in the necessary sizes are pretty limited.
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  3. Gustavo

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    There are a few more aggressive options for 17" tires (at least in Versys sizes), but they are not optimal. You can get a set of Pirelli Scorpion Sync (which as Hughlysses mentions, is not a true DS tire) or a front from Dunlop D616 (the rear only comes in 180/60-17 AFAIK). The two other options that come to mind are Avon Distanzia and Pirelli MT-60Corsa. The problem with both of those is that they are supermoto tires, which means they would probably have great traction on asphalt, but I wouldn't expect them to last long enough to be practical if you do a lot of street riding. :eek1

    You could fit a 150/70-17 in the rear (which is the most common big traillie size). It's not optimal with that rim width (4.5"), but will work. Maybe a regular Distanzia rear (150/70-17) with the 120/70-17 supermoto tire could make a reasonable combo.

    Disclaimer - This is not official tire advice. Check with the manufacturer about size and fitting recommendations. Professional rider on closed course, don't try this at home. Etc. etc., etc. :deal


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  4. JamesLaugesen

    JamesLaugesen Been here awhile

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    The Pirelli MT60R is probably the most popular 17" "dual sport" going around.
    But the rear is only available in 160 width.
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  5. xshanex

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    the avon distanzias will still last thousands of miles. Probably not going to eke out 5k or anything like that regularly but they're not like rolling around on a set of supermoto rain tires which last into the hundreds of miles. On most supermotos they're saying about 4k miles over at supermotojunkie.com. On a heavier bike probably around 3k but thats for a so-so dual sport tire(probably all you'd need for dirt/gravel roads) that people do track days on
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  6. Garry

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    You would think that given the market for a 17" "all roads" tire, that *someone* would start making one. I can't believe it'd be that hard to make a 17" Anakee or Tourance or whatever.

    Surely there is enough of a market for a tire like that given the Uly, Tiger, Multistrada, Verysys, etc. are all sporting 17" wheels.
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  7. synthnut

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    You would think that given the market for a 17" "all roads" tire, that *someone* would start making one. I can't believe it'd be that hard to make a 17" Anakee or Tourance or whatever.

    My feelings exactly !!......

    I read an thread on the Avon's and while they do last , they aren't very good at what they do ... Not good at much of anything ....

    The Pirellie MT 60's look nice but I haven't read enough to make the high price worthwhile ....

    Still wondering who will come out with something decent in a 17....

    Thanks for the replies ...Jim
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  8. triumphant

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    I have a BMW HP2 SuperMotard with 17" front and rear.
    Running Avon Distancia (Dual Sports) 120/17 frt and 150/17 rear. They work great.

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  9. sooner02r1

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    Avon Distanzias are what I hear about the most on street-going supermoto bikes that want DS capability. Just run supermoto slicks, they're not that bad in the dirt.... :uhoh
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  10. RedRocket

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    I think that situation should certainly change within the next 5 months with the influx of these bikes.

    As for the Distanzias, the Striking Viking swears by them.
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  11. northcountry

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    Have a 2007 fs550e husaberg, and a good share of the roads here are gravel-dirt-sand. Also some twisties on the logging roads would suit me. Just put on a 2007 (60/40) pirelli mt 60-r dual sport 120/70vr-17 front, and a continental tkc-80 150/70b-17 rear. Looks like it will do the job, but have yet to try it out. Waiting for paper work for title and other upgrade parts. Will get back later, once I get some miles on.

    Have mich power pilots fs.
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  12. Michelangelo

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    I live and swear by distanzias for all around riding. They stick like glue (not superglue, which woudl be a race tire) but even at a 90% clip on the twisties I've had no problems keeping up with my very fast buddy riding race compound sport tires.

    Distanzias will be the best compromise you can get my friend.

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  14. jsb223

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    Kenda makes the k270 in a 17" rear now...

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    And I know a guy running the IRC GP-1 rear on the front...

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  15. psychsurf

    psychsurf Been here awhile

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    Sonufabich...

    Wish I had found this thread about two hours ago. I just did my duty, searched the archives, poured over the threads for 90/10 tires, came up with my "short list" of tires I thought would work for me, then went online and started looking for them.


    They don't make any of them in a 160/60/17.

    Damn.

    Soooo... Anyone find anything new in the month that this thread has been inactive? Anyone have a good street tire they'd suggest as a 95/5 compromise?
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  16. Gustavo

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    I suppose the Pirelli Scorpion Sync qualifies as that 95/5 tire you are looking for, but in reality, it's not significantly different than a regular street tire off road. Probably worth it for the wet weather performance, though.

    I'll probably try that or the Distanzia (SM) as my next tire. Curious to see how the Distanzia hold up. It's not an issue for regular rides (hey, it's only money I don't have... :cry), but I wonder if they'd make a reasonable trip tire, i.e. last more than 3K miles.

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  17. psychsurf

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    Looks like distanzias would fit as well... If I spooned on a 150 instead of the 160, I'd have way more options for a rear, but still no more options for a 120/60/17 front. I'll probably end up going with the pirelli scorpion syncs. Either that, or just finding some agressive-looking road tires... The Metz Roadtec Z6 looks ok.

    Wish I had more options, but I guess that would come with having a "real" DS bike, now wouldn't it? :thumb
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  18. pilot

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    What are you putting them on?
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  19. psychsurf

    psychsurf Been here awhile

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    Sv650!:clap
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    Pirellie MT60's... Enough said.

    Great on the SV for winter riding.
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