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2 Aussies, 2 bikes and a 3 month lap of USA!

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Terry & Janelle, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    Add to that search... Snowy Mountains Highway and Great Alpine Road. Throw in Murray Valley Highway and Cann River Road. And all there are within a days ride from our home. (Except Oxley Highway). So many roads. So small population.

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  2. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    Hi James
    Another member has recommended I bounce this off you, and as you seem to be able to solve problems...

    One of our options is to buy 2 bikes (lets say for arguments sake BM GS800's or Suzuki DL650/1000) and then resell them at the other end. Now this would solve a few huge logistics but also create a few as well, not the least being the risk of non-disposal. Clearly there would be a financial cost in the purchase/resale price but Im pretty sure it would be a lot less than the cost of hire. Even if we broke the hire into 2 lots and became normal tourists for a month in the middle, hiring 2 bikes would still be a pretty significant cost.

    So, with a recommendation that you can advise on these things, I wonder if you might, when convienent, give us some very high level thoughts? As a rough guide lets say fly into LAX late August 2018 and out via Houston 2 1/2 to 3 months later.

    Please dont get into too much detail, we simply want to decide if this is a rule in or out option and get a rough idea of the likely cost.

    Cheers

    T&J
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  3. patmo

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    Regarding buying when you get here, and selling when you leave...there are some smaller independent motorcycle shops that will sell your bike on a consignment basis, where they get a certain % of the sale in exchange for putting it out on their showroom. If you can find one of them in the area where you are ending your trip, and you can wait on the money until the time the bike sells, that might be a good option for you. Rental costs on a bike for the amount of time you are planning on using them can reach into the thousands of dollars. It would more than likely be cheaper to buy bikes and give them away for free, than it would be to actually rent them for 3 months.

    I haven't read every post on this thread completely, but it seems a lot of it is about the western states and riding there. Since you are planning on heading east, I'd like to give a couple of suggestions there. 1st off, you absolutely must make plans to stop in at the Barber Motorsports complex and museum in Birmingham, Alabama on your way to New Orleans. Simply one of the best MC museums in the world and a world class road course. Since you like music so much, I'd recommmed putting Nashville, Tn. on the list too. It's not called Music City for nothing. Probably the #1 city in the country for live music venues, and one of the top cities in the world for actual recording of music of all types. If someone hasn't recommended riding the Blue Ridge Parkway and the Cherahola Skyway yet, put them on your list. The "world famous" Deal's Gap lies in between them, and especially if you can make it during the week it is well worth a stop at the store and run through the road. The roads around it are wonderful. You can easily spend a week in that area and still never ride all the great roads that the Smokey Mts. offer. The states of West Virginia, Virginia, and Kentucky are often overlooked by travelers, but the people that know, know that the riding in them is as good as anywhere in the country.

    One last thing.....we have a national (actually international) club here in the states called the MSTA (Motorcycle Sport Touring Association) that does a lot of local rides, but also organizes some small weekend/overnight events for our members and friends. The basic concept is to pick a hotel or campground in the middle of great roads, pick a weekend to meet, and invite anyone that wants to meet there to come and go riding for a couple of days. Mostly on road, but we also have many dual sport riders in the club. We have events in southern Kentucky in September, and West Virginia and Eastern Tennessee in October, and the Hill Country of Texas in November of every year. We always have locals set up self guided route sheets and GPS routes for attendees. Our website is www.ridemsta.com. You might find that one or more of these events corresponds with your travel schedule and they would be a great way to meet fellow riders/travelers and be shown the best roads in the areas you are in.
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  4. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    I'd say buying in your case is the best and most economic solution. Buy whatever takes your fancy and sell for a price losing less than the cost of rental. If you advertise a California bought bike in any other State they are very desirable, lack of exposure to harsh conditions being the attractive factor, that coupled with a less than market price will ensure a quick and easy sale. If you go to 'conversations' and email me your email I will send you costs and references for buying bikes in Los Angeles. How and where to look for bikes and etc. I also have a shipper that will take a bike to NZ for $595 US. I don't know about Aust. You can contact Kiwi Shipping in Compton California for more details on that. I JUST picked up a DR650 for an Aussie today! He arrives in April. 'dace' on adv if you want to search his posts.
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  5. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    That's all great info. Thanks so much for taking the time. Everything you recommended is going onto our giant spreadsheet and we will see how it all shakes out.

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    Expect to pay about $100 a day per bike to rent (maybe less if you can get a long term discount, don't know). 2 bikes, 90 days = $18,000.00 And you have nothing to keep afterward. Heck, I'd seriously consider buying your dream motorcycles here in the USA, riding them on your epic trip, and shipping them home after. You could also ship yours here at the start of your trip, but I understand that is not effortless to get it through customs, and will use up some of your vacation.
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  7. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    I'd buy a couple of DL650's. Cheap and cheerful, lots of used one's around, quite versatile, bullet proof and easy to sell afterwards. There are less 1000's and they don't sell near as well.
    The BMW 800's are kinda maintenance intensive, just the valve adjustment is a pain.
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  8. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    Cheers mate. In a former life I owned a Japanese motorcycle mechanical workshop. (I still race an RGV 250, but that's another story).
    Both Janelle and I own SV650's as our daily rides, and I've attached a pic from a recent camping trip. (Yes, that's a DL lurking in the background).

    I suggest we would be totally comfortable with DL's.

    Would you be able to give me a ball park $US figure for buying a reasonable second handy incl getting it on the road over there?

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  9. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    We're right with you. But bringing them home isn't an option. Our compliance laws are almost as bad as yours and the import tax makes it silly. Selling would be the best way.
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    TUCKERS the famous james

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    About $5000 each should set you up ready to roll. Bikes with some luggage. Titles in your name, registered to you. Depends how low a miles bike you want to buy. Don't look at Year, just miles. I' d search 'Craigslist all of Los angeles' lower miles higher price.
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  11. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    Thanks. I was just trying to work out how to email you as you suggested earlier.

    $5K USD = Approx $7.5k AUD so that's well do-able. It raises some other logistic issues, that I'm sure are overcome-able with PP&P.

    May I email you or discuss here?
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    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Go to conversations
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  13. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

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    I have noticed that live music in restaurants and pubs is becoming more common as a way to bring in more customers. I suppose the thinking is that rather than just a beer, maybe they'll come out for a night of entertainment.

    A couple places in Central California:

    The Bourbon Barrel, Sonora CA (west of Yosemite)
    Lagunitas Brewery, Petaluma, CA (north of San Francisco)
    Just about any casino (I don't gamble, but go to our local Black Oak Casino often for their free concerts.)

    In cities such as L.A., San Francisco, and San Jose, it is not uncommon to see big name concerts any day of the week. They have enough local population to sell out even on a week night.

    In August, San Francisco Golden Gate Park hosts a big multi genre concert called Outside Lands. It is fun to discover new music you didn't even know existed.

    In October, San Francisco Golden Gate Park hosts a big FREE multi genre concert called Hardly Strictly Bluegrass. Some big names have shown up there.
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  14. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    Thanks mate. More good info to put on our list. Please keep in touch.

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    WJBertrand Ventura Highway

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    I was going to suggest all of the same. In addition there is some great riding around the Ventura to San Luis Opisbo area. You could easily spend a few days around the LA perimeter mountains and have a lot of great rides. By August of 2018 I'll be retired (assuming it all goes to plan) and would love to show you some of our lesser known and well known canyons. I've subscribed to the thread and envy your upcoming adventure!

    Forgot to mention there's almost always several cafes and restaurants in downtown Ventura with live music. Some are better than others.
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  16. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    I reckon you might have a deal! Keep in touch yeah. And thanks for the advice.

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    Following up on the bike purchase and re-sell thread, I received and ad the other day from my local multibrand dealer that they were looking for consignment bikes, trade ins, whatever. Maybe that will still be the case when you are here. August can get pretty hot in the LA basin but you can escape it riding around the coast or the inland mountains. Getting from one to the other will require a quick crossing of the basin and the infamous LA traffic though. If you're into cars, the Petersen Museum in LA is not to be missed. If you could manage a month or so earlier arrival it's great to ride the Pacific Coast Hwy to Monterey and take in the WSBK races at Laguna Seca which are usually in July. I go every year.
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  18. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    Hey. No even August is pushing it. It might even be early September.
    We will definitely be looking for a buy back option so will chase that up when the time gets closer.
    Not really into cars but the SBK would be great. I'd love to be a part of it all at Laguna Seca but not this time.
    Actually If we end up visiting a track somewhere I'd love to hook up with a team and help them out. I've done that for years up to and including the Australia GP (250cc) in 1999. (Wildcard entry). Going as a spectator bugs me and we're both experienced pit crew. And I still race an RGV250 as well.

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  19. jlevers

    jlevers Type 2 fun Super Supporter

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    As far as routes go, I'm no expert, but I'm taking a ~5 week trip around the US this summer and got a bunch of route suggestions in this thread, and those suggestions led to me planning this route: https://trips.furkot.com/ts/Ht23fE. Since you have a lot more time, your route will likely end up being quite different, but I thought I'd pass along the info I'd gotten anyways. Best of luck!
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  20. Terry & Janelle

    Terry & Janelle Two Aussie riders planning a 3 month tour of USA

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    What a great idea. We'll use the same trip planner.

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