200 EXC, 250 EXC or 300 EXC?

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  1. B1

    B1 Carbon-based bipedal

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    Sorry, I've just found out 'monetized' vids not allowed but you can find the video on Youtube if needed.
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  2. anonny

    anonny What could go wrong?

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    Great video, I choose the 200 and am not sorry.
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  3. B1

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    they are definitely a cool bike... the young guy riding the 200exc is the current australian junior endurocross champion and also junior queensland trials champion. he does pretty amazing things on that 200.... i had a ride and was surprised at the way you can still lug it around.
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  4. Spikester300

    Spikester300 Roll Tide!

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    The 300 fit me perfectly, lugged my 250 lb carcass around like a tractor, chugged up hills with the front tire an inch or two off the ground most of the way up.:clap
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  5. B1

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    yup. the vid started off because a mate is swapping over from a 450exc and trying to decide which would suit him best for mainly tight gnarly trails.

    originally he was going for the 200 but after riding my 250 was keen on that. but the luggability of the 300 is tempting so looks like he's going for the big one.

    i'll be jealous as the 250 does bog down on some steep hills where the 300 would just keep chugging away in second gear. might have to get one of those conversion kits....
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  6. Bucho

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    I have a 300. I like the down low torque. I ride lots of tight stuff. I tend to lug the bike most of the time and only get on the pipe when going up a hill or something.

    That said, Ive ridden my buddies 200 abit and I could totally live with it. Got to rev it a bit more but its still a great bike.
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  7. B1

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    all this talk of lugging, i might just have to get me a 300 conversion kit! nobody out there hates lugging their 300 and wants to swap barrel, piston and CDI with me? :lol3
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  8. GlennR

    GlennR Chasin' my tail

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    This is like comparing Oranges to Oranges to Oranges. :D


    I chose the 300, but I can't say if it's "better" than the 200 or 250. They all jam on the trails. I'm loving the switch over from the 450 I had. The weight savings is great, especially when I'm hot and tired and having to pick up and/or drag the bike around. Last week I had to drag it over some boulders that I couldn't ride up. Would have been almost impossible if the bike weighed 50 lbs more. Mine came with a Rekluse too, so that really makes it easier to ride the steep stuff. Would like a LHRB (left hand rear brake), for riding down the tricky sections.
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  9. AWM

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    I'd buy both then figure which one fits better.
    That's what I did.
    Then kept the 200 and 250.
    Can't play golf with one club....:1drink

    I can't bring myself to not own a 200.Its such a great woods motor,an I have an 05 EXC so its smaller and lighter but still not lacking in the power deptment compared to my 250XC.IMHO it doesn't tired me out anywhere as quick as my 250,or the 300s I've owned.
    I'm not a big guy though,so the chassi is the driving force.I can man handle a 200 alot more then my 250.
    The only place I feel I need more bike like a 250/300 is big wide open spaces where the 200 would be wicked on the throdle stop all day,or when spinning a heavy ice tire.There the 250 shines on the 200.
    But ice is the last thing your thinking of.
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  10. B1

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    yep, you can definitely throw the 200 around... the grunt of a 300 is great but there are times it does make it feel like a big heavy bike although it isn't. initially my 250 was bought only because there no decent 300s around but as i get used to it i think i've made the right choice - i just need to learn to slip the clutch better on steep hill climbs in second gear and not just try to rely on engine grunt.
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  11. Foot dragger

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    My last 200 was an 09,nice bike but some revs are called for to get up the steep stuff,gotta keep the shifter moving to go quick-ish.

    Then I barged in and bought a 2014 300XCW,very little shifting required,doesnt like to stall,almost never slip the clutch.

    I usually start in second gear and get to third and the thing will do lots of trails in 3rd gear at low revs. Ive had some older 300's and the new ones be mo bettah. As close to a 4 stroke as can be done,with out the excess weight and over heating.
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  12. NWBoon

    NWBoon Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the review B1.

    I've never owned or really ridden a two stroke (a college roommate had a 1983/84 Yamaha RZ350 that I rode a few times but that can't be compared to these three KTM's) and I'd like to purchase one of these KTM's someday. I've always been intrigued and curious about two stroke dirtbikes and I think one of the above will be a lot of fun if plated and used on the forest service roads in either the Cascades or Olympic Mountain ranges of Washington State. I own a pick up truck and the dirt roads are about 1 -2 hours away from my home in Seattle.

    I'm 5'6" and 165 pounds so the 200 seems like a good fit, but I currently ride a DR650 and love the ability to lug and torque my way up the steeper sections. I'm also a dirt newbie and still learning.
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  13. davesupreme

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    i always look at em', really want one....

    my buddy just got a '13 300 XC, real nice bike....

    i think it was stated before, but.... there's really no difference in the weight/size of the new ones, so that's why he went w/the 300, the 200 is like 5lbs lighter...... i think the 12' 200 was the last one w/out the magic button, and it was lighter, the @'05 era bikes were lighter still w/smaller frames, i think.... really wanna try one of the older 200's....
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  14. mudmantra

    mudmantra Been here awhile

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    Right now I'm bringing a EXC 380 back from the dead, so once that's done I think I'll have tractor T2 covered. Now I'm also interested in the KTM 200. What were the lightest and best years for the KTM 200?
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    look on KTM.com.... in the dealer/info button, you can download all the owners manuals..... they have alotta info there, weights/wheelbase,etc.... i dunno if the '07/'08 bikes is when they went to the same size frames or not?... i'm pretty sure the earlier ones had the 2 different size frames.... i rode a '10 four stroke, and i liked those frames, the newest ones feel just like jap bikes... i dunno if i like the new ones as much, but i haven't really ridden them enough to really say that....everybody seems to really think they're superior......
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    mudmantra Been here awhile

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    Thanks. I checked and the KTM 200 stayed pretty light until they installed the electric start. The write up said they were light prior to 2009. But I checked and the 2008 and 2009 use the same frame part number. And both of them have spec's that show them around 214 lbs. dry. That's a lot lighter than my 490. :evil
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    my buddy's new 300 still feels light at almost 230... and you take off a few by getting a LI battery, which you pretty much have to do, cause' the stock battery won't start the bike for shizzit..... it's just where the weight is, i think.... but still, of the older 150's at about 200lbs sounds interesting.... :evil

    but the 300 pretty much acts like a 4t, alotta low end torque.... i don't think you can say it's the same as a 4t, but it's still got plenty....
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    Grreatdog Long timer Supporter

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    I wonder about the KTM published weights. My 01 MXC200 barely breaks 200 pounds with full DOT lighting and a little battery. The thing feels like a mountain bike.
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    i know a guy that has one of those, really wanna ride it......:evil
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  20. Bump Stop

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    The current 200 shares the 125\150 chassis/engine not the 250/300 chassis/engine. There is a 10 to 15 pound difference which is huge.
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