never understood the whole 'but you can get a similar thing for less' argument. If your in a restaurant and you really want the steak your not going to go for the pasta because it's just as nutritional but a few dollars cheaper, your going to get what you want. Same goes for bikes, the Tenere has a very established name throughout the years and previous tenere's and xt600's have proven very reliable over the years. If I was in the market for a dual sport it would be a toss up for me over the tenere and the f800, and I reckon the tenere would win in my mind.
She has entered the bike in this years Heros Legends. Good luck to her. You can find all the info on the build on xt660.com
just cos they aren't here yet , doesn't make them somehow better. I think they are the emporers new clothes from an ex-owner in the uk ....... for me the new Tenere just does not stir the soul in the way a motorcycle should. To me, my bike is just a toy and I don't commute on it or anything like that. So it needs to shout out to me from the garage "Oi, lets go out ! Now" And the new Tenere never really did. I sold mine on here to fund an extension but for less than half the cost of a s/h Tenere I got one of the very first Teneres (1983) and the bike just oozes style and has that almost indefinable thing, charisma. It just doffs along beautifully like a big thumper should and I did 150 miles yesterday for no other reason than it was sunny. 30 litre tank, nice and light, great looks, my 7 year old son could fix it, 18 inch rear, it's all good. The new Tenere seems to be a victim of modernity, rather than a beneficiary. Built to a budget by accountants, all style over substance, and an emmission consious () engine that was very nearly strangled at birth by catalytics and other modern stuff I could live without. In the Teneres favour, they are cheap. Secondhand ones don't sell for much over £4k very easily and I know people have done great things on them. For sure they are reliable and as a modern Jap bike, they are very much a bike you can hop on and off, "turn the key and go" sort of thing. They seem to be a "ride and forget" sort of bike and perhaps that is both its strength and undoing.
Unfortunately i think the older tenere will only go so far before you can't buy parts for them which inturn then you can only move forward. Your conundrums are probably due to the emmissions thing "cats and virtually no exhaust note" due to these reg's is what takes away a bit of the soul you speak of, but these things can be got arround. I think though mate its a head thing....ya gotta move on at some stage and focus on some positives instead of negatives, i mean this in a nice way not the other. Just should have put some big ass pipes on it if you hadn't allready.... cheers
its not me, matey. I'm just highlighting that everyone here seems to be salivating in massive anticipation for the imminent arrival of the ultimate adventure bike, when the reality of those who already have it , is that it isn't.
go easy young phil,theres plenty of fore &against fodder out there on any bike ever made.I am sure the people who decide to spend the dollars will have thought about the Tenere purchase for a long time (2 years probably).You don't seem to think the Tenere is a viable choice for the neww buyer ,so maybe you should go over to the BMW thread ?? Buying a SH 83 Tenere for half the price of a 08 mdel(UK) is not what most of us want ,we want to ride regularly without spending our time chasing parts I would think.The 83 would be regarded as a investment in a classic bike IMHO
Nice looking bike and well finished with some nice touches here and there. Probably a $1000 overpriced for me but if people are happy to pay the rrp then it mustn't be.
Paoli forks/ Sachs shock. As mentioned in one of the earlier posts, it's 4k overpriced for what it is. 14k plus ORC etc brings it to $15k plus :huh :huh Those marketing clowns at Yamaha must be having a go at how many suckers they could possibly find. Like the looks, but that's it. 48.4hp out of a 20 y/o donk and being a lard bucket (Yamaha Germany lists wet weight @ 211kg), componentry from the usual 3.party parts bins, then hype it into price-orbit? RIP Tenere
In Defence of the 83 tenere.... I had one, and parts aint much of a problem because the XT 600 ran for so long and nearly all the bits are interchangable. There were very well built in ways that many forget these days, Quality rims spokes, suspension was ok by todays Dr/XTZ standard. The problemI have with all these new jap bikes is they have all gone backwards in every way except the FI engine. wheels, suspension, plastic have all got worse over the past 15-20 years AND they are heavier ????? In my opinion that is why so many are going to the euros. In my opinion (again) a 2nd hand F650GS Dakar is a much better option than the new Tenere.
Hmmm Nev being open to brands other than Orange... that BMW has opened up a whole new bigger world to you hasn't it my friend???? hahaha
It will be interesting to see how well they sell. Comparing prices, the "new" G650GS Beemer is only $11,990 + onroads, and all it gives way to the Tenere is tank capacity. Time will tell.
In my opinion the only reason that "IF" alot more people are "ACTUALLY" moving to euro bikes its because they want to appear like they are someone they are not.... A bit like how most wine drinkers think they are more sophisticated than say a.......beer drinker............lol F650GS Dakar cheers
I am not knocking the Tenere, I am waiting to have a look at one, just comparing with other bikes. I dont think for me, a single would do what I want. I have had a XTZ660 Tenere, XT600, F650GS, and they have all been great bikes, but just not as an only bike. In the end, whatever takes your fancy
I'm Just say, look at the new tenere, KLR Transalp, they have all gone backwards over the past 15 years, the have moved away from the rally replica, adv bike. Where s BMW, KTM etc seem to be moving forward, improving chasis componets loosing weight, moving to plastics that bend instead of snap and just overall inovation. I'm no Fan boy of the Euros, I've never even owned a KTM probablly never will. But I just dont see the value in the new XTZ. it may well be a "nice bike" but it is heavy, low speced and expensive. The price is similar to what a KTM640adv was selling for before they were discontinued. but the KTM had high spec suspension, heaps less weight and more power etc. I cant see what justifies the XTZ which has similar specs to a KLR. Now you can all believe the glossy broucher and buy into the image, but the specs are the specs, and a guttless fat dog is a gutless fat dog. Thats OK if thats what u need, but u shouldnt be paying pure bread greyhound prices.
+1 but at the end of the day each to his own, whatever does it for you. Just looked on trading post for any KTM 640s, not a single 640Adv, loads but loads of SMC, supermotos etc.