2012 BMW G650GS Sertao Owners

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Psychout, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. Natron

    Natron Scooterhead

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    Hey guys, I'm replacing my front wheel bearings today. Is the type of puller tool that is shown in the service diagram attached, one that I can rent at an automotive store like O'Reilly's or something? Do I need to ask for a specific size? Thanks!

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  2. Motopsychoman

    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur Supporter

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    The bearings (front and rear wheels) are both 17mm ID. There are two kinds of pullers, but both have expanding collet type ends. One had a slide hammer, the other that frame and bolt arrangement.
    I've been changing bearings a lot over the past few years (restoring my G/S, blowing rear bearings on the Sertao, etc.) so I just broke down and bought a puller off of eBay like this one
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    In hindsight, I think I should have bought a kit like this
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    That way you can have it both ways. Just make sure that it has pullers for 17mm, 20mm, 24mm, 28mm as those are the most common chassis bearing sizes on the 650s.
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  3. Motopsychoman

    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur Supporter

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    Forgot to add, it does help to use a heat gun (or fast moving propane torch) on the hub around the bearings to warm it up and make the aluminum expand before removing or replacing the bearings.
    I use a threaded rod, washer, nuts and the old bearings to pull the new ones in.
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    I cut the old bearing apart to use it as a spacer (I use both parts) IMG_20200915_201221905.jpg
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  4. imintman

    imintman FL_atlander

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    After breaking a collet on my cheap Harbor Freight puller I wound up with one of these: https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0269

    I’ve removed several bearings with it. I find it easier to use than yanking on a slide hammer. You don’t have to purchase the entire kit, only the pieces you need. I found them on Amazon. These are the parts you’ll need for the 650:

    17mm collet: Part No. 08-0268

    Bearing removal driver (large): Part No. 08-0260
  5. Fatherless

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    SINGLE SEAT AND LUGGAGE BIN

    I dunno if this is of interest to anyone on this forum but I’ve got a quote, here in Europe, for the following:

    1. Single seat, 71607653838, 25.04€ without tax - available
    2. Luggage bin 71607653839, unavailable
    3. Mounting kit, 71607688805,6.42€ without tax - available
    4. Lock, 51252313285 unavailable

    I’ve seen quotes for single seats in the ‘00s in the US!

    The Luggage bin that is unavailable here is available in the US (MaxBMW) US$ 132.

    I cannot seem to find a lock, can anyone help me?

    I’ve spoken to the dealer and it the seat seems legit - but I’m now wondering if it is un-upholstered.

    Thought? Opinions?
  6. Motopsychoman

    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur Supporter

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    2. Can't help much, but the bin is actually several pieces, not just 71607653839
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    but also #5, #6, #7, #8 #10, #11.

    4. Check with your BMW dealer about Lock 51252313284, Lock with key. I believe this is a kit that can be assembled to fit your existing key. If not, you'll have different key for the trunk.
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  7. Fatherless

    Fatherless Adventurer Supporter

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    MotoPsychoman, you are a mine of information - a walking Library of Congress! Respect.
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  8. I82l8

    I82l8 Been here awhile Supporter

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    You can rekey any BMW lock to match your ignition ->
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  9. Motopsychoman

    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur Supporter

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    But I have to get a life and get out riding!
  10. Singulano

    Singulano Been here awhile

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    Bought a similar brazilian made. Cheap and really ease to use
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  11. WayneC

    WayneC Long timer

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    The lock cylinder is the same as used in some early R Series helmet locks so you can buy them from a wrecker & rekey to your existing locks
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  12. Tundra Tom

    Tundra Tom XLR8

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    Indeed, I'm missing out on a annual camp and ride with the boys this weekend.
    I used to going riding on Sundays like religion...church of speed if you will.
    Call an old friend, taking the Bandit out this Sunday. Got to get back in that habit.
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  13. DaBearsMama

    DaBearsMama Been here awhile Supporter

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    Has anyone used either the ProX or Wiseco 10mm shim kits instead of the Hotcams? Its time for a valve check (um, loooong overdue at 35,000 mi)
    I was going to order the Hotcams today but the earliest I can get them is way after my upcoming August trip:dirtdog

    I can get either of the others delivered in 2 days - at a substantial savings too.
  14. Colorado Mike

    Colorado Mike Been here awhile Supporter

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    Do you still need help with this? To answer your question, I accomplished getting the lock ordered and configured by ordering part 51252313285 from the local BMW Motorcycle dealership parts department. The website wouldn't let me order it online so I had to order it over the phone to be picked up in-store. When I went to pick it up, I gave them my ignition key and they keyed the new lock to my ignition key. Woohoo!

    This solo seat with a luggage compartment was the best upgrade I ever made to my bike. I can take day trips now without saddlebags and on long trips I can keep quick access necessities locked away in the luggage compartment.

    I went through a lot of trial and error before figuring out the correct parts and configuration. I tried to get the seat parts for cheap on eBay but that was a disaster because people mislabel the seats. There are multiple versions the 650GS single seats. I determined the only way get it right was to spend money on new parts to do it right, but it was 100% worth it.

    Here are the parts you need;
    P/N / Price / Description
    71607653838 $386.35 Single seat
    71607688805 $45.00 Installation kit, bucket seat
    71607653839 $132.00 Luggage compartment

    I learned that these parts below are already included in the above part kits and do NOT need to be ordered separately:
    P/N / Price / Description
    46632313938 $7.68 Catch
    07119941417 $3.27 Roll pin
    71607667947 $13.98 Gasket
    71607664993 $45.31 Cover
    71607664994 $18.49 Push button
    61131367599 $0.69 Cable tie

    DO NOT BUY THIS SEAT. It looks like the one you want because it's all one piece and comes assembles with the single seat and luggage, but they don't set this anymore. You have to buy the components instead and attach the seat and luggage bin together. Again, do NOT attempt to buy this, it's discontinued:
    71607653838 Single seat $386.35

    Here are some pictures of my seat as I was putting it together.

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    This is how the seat and luggage compartment screw together. It's not the best design by BMW but it works. You take the unit on and off your bike as one piece, just like a 2up seat.

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  15. WayneC

    WayneC Long timer

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    I added info from Mike into a seat Part No pdf last year, it is on this page, I think I documented it all correctly, sure someone will point out any errors :D
  16. Colorado Mike

    Colorado Mike Been here awhile Supporter

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    Sertao on the BDR! I started the Colorado BDR this week with a crew. I live out here and know the great road trips well, but this is a whole new experience in the same general area.. it's a fresh new view and appreciation for this great part of the world.

    The Sertao has been the perfect bike for chewing up backcountry miles. Thanks to the whole crew here on the forum for helping me get it into tip top shape with great components, maintenance, and all sorts of help on making my build just right for me. Especially @Motopsychoman , @WayneC , @Tundra Tom , @Gravel Seeker and so many other good people.

    Some photos of the fun..
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  17. Tundra Tom

    Tundra Tom XLR8

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    I fully expect and invite criticism for this mod. While the plastic was off last winter I noticed a substantial cavity above the cylinder head. This area does not have access to air flow from the front. I took some flexible drain pipe and zip tied it to direct air from the front from right to left.
    I have taken it for several rides including one very hot trail and road ride this weekend.
    No noticeable issues including melting of the tube.
    When riding I stuck my left hand into the cavity exit and can feel the heated air being pushed out without causing discomfort on my left leg while seated.
    If anything while trail riding at slower speeds it seemed the fan did not run as often. Two advantages would be to keep the battery and possibly the oil tank from absorbing heat off the Motor. You can see the cavity back lit at the top of the tube in the second picture. Flame away! :)
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  18. Fatherless

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    That is genius - in kiswahili we would call that “jua khali chin y’a mugumu” - a repair made under the hot sun under a fig tree!
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  19. Motopsychoman

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    Is it stamped DOT or SAE? What no fan?
    All kidding aside, if it works, what the hell. What is the O.D. of the flex tube you used? I'm thinking McMaster might have something a bit more suitable to the temperatures.
  20. Tundra Tom

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    LOL! Yeah it was left over drain hose from a garden rain barrel I sold.
    2.00” O.D over the ridges, 1.550” I.D.
    It looks better with the body panel installed.