2012 forester with 148K miles has serious rod knock. Engine is toast

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  1. Achtung

    Achtung Wicked Pisssah Adventurer

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    I've had 3 Subies, this one was an 08 with 150k that had regular oil changes. It dropped a valve guide. I did the job myself and it still cost 2 grand. Suck part is the car lasted 6 months after the repair and had another unrelated engine failure. Should've cut my losses and split after the first failure but I bought it new and got 150,000 trouble fee miles so I'm not too disappointed. Ended up selling it to the dealership and walking away.
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    concours WFO for 47 years

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    So my 2001 VW TDI I drove 630,000 miles, never had the head or oil pan off, is looking pretty good now...
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  3. Achtung

    Achtung Wicked Pisssah Adventurer

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    That's more in line with what I would expect from modern engineering. Honestly I'm just trying to look on the bright side.
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  4. Adanac rider

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    I wonder if moms cars would last longer if she stopped lending them out ? :hmmmmm
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  5. showkey

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    Couple for thoughts:

    Modern engine oil light ............should say “JUNK ENGINE”.......low pressure at speed the engine is done.

    Oil pressure gauge.................is only good if you watch it and know good from bad pressures. 20# at 6k-8k is junk engine time.

    Rebuilding a modern engine............rarely makes economic sense, when shop labor rate is $100-$200 per hour.
    "......................................................add parts at retail, no oil pressure means crank, heads, cams, valve train, piston rings etc. machine work like boring. Short block or long $8500 might actually be cheap. German MB, Audi, BMW rebuilds might start at $12k

    Sprinter engines start at $13k and rebuild parts like cranks and oversize pistons are N/A
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  6. BLZ2DWL

    BLZ2DWL Roustabout Supporter

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    '98 Legacy with 2.2, sold it with 225k on it still running strong.
    '05 Outback with 2.5 (5spd), sold it with 215k on it still running strong.
    '13 Legacy with 2.5, sold it with 70k, obviously still running strong.

    Never replaced anything more than a few wheels bearings and valve cover gaskets. Most dependable cars I've ever owned. I bet for ~$2k an independent shop can put a rebuilt or salvage motor in it. Fix the oil light while you're at it.
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  7. sjc56

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    2012 Forester running fine at 112000. But then I am on my second replacement motor (warranty thank god) which was put in at around 80k and my center dif was replaced at 93K, I had the extended warranty that the PO bought with the car also a right drive shaft was done also under warranty. Not sure if I should keep or get out while it is still going good. And this motor is now using a quart and a half every 2K. Other then that it's a great car that works for me. CRV's are looking good.
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  8. fast1075

    fast1075 Not a Lemming Supporter

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    My boss has a '99 F-350 with a 7.3. Just helped him do s fluid change. 398,902 miles. It failed an injector once. A customer has one with 600k+ miles on it. I have a '99 Ford/Mazda Ranger 2.5 with 310k miles that still does not use a whole quart of oil between changes. Good maintenance goes a long way.
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  10. anotherguy

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    An engine has two big enemies. One already mentioned here is poor maintenance. The other is it has a finite life under maximum load. The more you use it the faster it wears. High output small bores are particularly susceptible to #2. That's why my '17 WRX doesn't see a lot of high boost operation. And the current FA20 has great mid-range torque making it unnecessary. Drive like you stole it was coined by a dealer. And never forget shit happens. :D
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  11. Achtung

    Achtung Wicked Pisssah Adventurer

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    Almost all those 2.5 Subie motors blow head gaskets and drop valves around 150k. It's just a bad design. No amount of maintenance will help.
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  12. concours

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    As previously stated. They must drive awesome, for people to love them as they fail...
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    Ibraz Been here awhile

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    Guess there's always worse... My ex's Nissan Versa. Two engines and two transmissions (second ones 200 miles before waranty expired) in 60k miles.
    Pile of junk...
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  14. layinlow61

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    Yup...love them at first....then the issues start! :hair
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  15. concours

    concours WFO for 47 years

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    I know they were cute at $2000....
    1972

    $32,000-$42,000.... not so much
    Door still closes with the feel of folding a cheep lawn chair.
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  16. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Well, she replaced with a 2019. :rolleyes At least the dealer honored the $5000 trade in agreement, actually giving them a bit more than that towards the new one.
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  17. concours

    concours WFO for 47 years

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    Monopoly money.
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