2015-on Versys 650 (LT/ABS)

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by mcmann, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice MC_Rider

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    Would prefer this over the Wee2 adventure....
    If the fuel economy is the same. :deal

    I actualy think she could hang with the DL off road.
    90% of the time it would be tarmac. Sure, out of that 10% you will be the lesser MC, but give and take. Careful on creek crossings with that low pipe!


    So more fun all around.
    Hopfully you do not have to reach as far to the handle bars. Never liked that on the Wee.
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    The Versys should have the better ergos. Not sure of foot peg comparision.:ear

    The Wee was closer to what the beast gang wanted with the third edition, but still way off.


    Granted it may be the better 2 up touring MC due to longer wheel base.


    I guess it depends what left over model is on the sales floor in Jan or Feb of 2016.
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  2. EddyB

    EddyB Been here awhile

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    People and magazine reviewers seem to generalize that vstrom is better for long trips because its bigger. I would differ. It is definitely more comfortable for people over 6 foot tall. But big bikes can become uncomfortable quickly for people below 5'10''.
    And thats how I bought my last bike. Everyone said that big bikes for touring are comfortable. I am 5'10'' and now I want versys for touring because I hope it to be more comfortable and better fit size wise.
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  3. mcmann

    mcmann Adventure Rider Junkie Supporter

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  4. EddyB

    EddyB Been here awhile

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    One thing I do not like on a new versys is that they removed adjustable damping on rear shock. Yeah they added remote adjuster for preload. But I would be more happy if they just left the shock untouched.
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  5. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice MC_Rider

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    I am about 5'10, so it makes since that I did not like the Wee ergos (just a demo ride).



    Continuing with the Wee bashing.
    What's up with those high foot pegs?
    The under belly is so close to the ground that nasty off roading would be avoided.
    You would need a bash plate, not a skid plate. That Suzuki does not even care to make.

    Her high exhaust placement is more harm than good.
    Less cargo room
    Higher COG.


    So I type, spend more time on the tarmac and less time THINKING about off roading on your tour.:deal






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  6. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice MC_Rider

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    The specs are really close on a lot of stuff!

    The biggest difference is
    Wheel base . 61.4" DL. 55.7" VERSYS. So 5.7" ( 146mm)
    Overall length 90.2"DL. 85.2" VERSYS. So 5" (126mm)


    The next closes is rear suspension.
    6.3" for DL. 5.7" VERSYS. .6". (15.24mm)


    Everything is very close or a wash.


    But the VERSYS does have more street and touring advantages.
    .2 gallons. (.757liters)
    17" tyre. Easy tyre finds. More fun on the tarmac. Have I mintioned that before?


    Not sure about brakes. Cant find dl specs.

    Any other big differnces?:ear
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  7. mcmann

    mcmann Adventure Rider Junkie Supporter

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    The Wee2 has great brakes and suspension . . . Including adjustment for the rear dampening . . . which the new V omitted.

    My previous 3-Bikes: Wee, V, & CB5X felt much different from each other.

    The Wee had more low end and less vibration than the V. The V had more top end and was more flickable than the Wee. The 5X was quicker revving and had the smoothest motor and was light enough for Forrest Service roads etc. Also, very flickable.

    I av. 55 mpg on the Wee and V. 70 mpg on the 5X.

    My Wee2 is getting 60 mpg . . . Which I expect to get on the VLT.

    The Wee felt like a 1K compared to the V. The V felt like a 800 next to the 5X. They were all fun bikes.

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  8. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice MC_Rider

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    mcmann Adventure Rider Junkie Supporter

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    Good find . . . The red line has dropped 500 RPM from my '09 V:

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    For comparison with the Strom:

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  10. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice MC_Rider

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    I like it!

    Will be able to see tach easily.

    Do not like the Honda ADV consoles.

    I like the six tick marks for the fuel guage.

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    Keep forgetting to post prediction.

    She will do well.
    Very easy MC to sale.
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  11. EddyB

    EddyB Been here awhile

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    Mcmann, it is nice that you had Versys, Wee and CB5X all at the same time. I can see that you have sold CB500X. Why?
    Which one would be your bike if you could have only one? Also which one for usage of commuting on weekdays, twisties and gravel roads on weekends and a two week trip on summer. Which one would be the one to have?
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  12. JoshM

    JoshM mid10josh Supporter

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    Well, I ended up buying a 2015 Wee-Strom yesterday. I'm still interested in seeing the redesigned Versys though!
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  13. mcmann

    mcmann Adventure Rider Junkie Supporter

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    Everyone is different . . . I rotate bikes to try new bikes.

    The CB5X would be perfect for the below parameters:
    Also which one for usage of commuting on weekdays, twisties and gravel roads on weekends and a two week trip on summer

    *******

    Here is a video on the two '15 Versys:

    http://youtu.be/FlC5A542m4o






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  14. rauchman

    rauchman Long timer

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    Kawi hit it with the styling. Way better than the previous version. I'm lusting after the 1k, but still, this is a great looking bike that I could easily live with.
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  15. EddyB

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    Thanks. I think I saw a different post from you answering this question but now it is gone :huh
    I will be interested to hear how much more better suspension and brakes are on new Versys compared to CB500X. And also how do build quality compare between the two.
    I suppose for price difference one could get a nice adjustable aftermarket shock and even cartridge kit for forks for CB500X and still be under the price of Versys. And that gives suspension advantage to CB500x.
    Unfortunately there is no solution in making CB look as good as Versys :evil
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  16. mcmann

    mcmann Adventure Rider Junkie Supporter

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    The CB5X can not really be compared to a 650 . . . the NC7X would be a better comparison. The 5X is in its own class.

    I had the ABS 5X and the brakes and suspension were great for my riding style. I had hoped to put a 19" front wheel on the stock fork. I found that there was not enough fork travel room. It had just enough fork travel for the stock fender and 17" wheel etc.

    If you are not taking long road trips . . . You will be very happy with the 5X.

    I think the new V, Wee, CB5X & NC7X all are great bikes. Buy the bike that fits you best . . . They will all meet your every need . . . Just adjust your riding to the bike etc.

    I am looking forward to my white V:

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    For comparison: V & 5X:

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  17. MariusD

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    ... and I'm looking forward to your take on how it compares to the wee2. Based on the specs, it would seem the wee still might remain the better do-it-all bike, but specs alone don't tell the full story, so you will have to! :wink:

    When is your expected delivery date?
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  18. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice MC_Rider

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    A short coming to the NX700X here in the USA is range and stowage.

    1.8 less gallons.
    If the Honda averaged a solid 70mpg on a epic tour. 4 liters /100km

    3.7 gallons X 70mpg =259miles. 416.8 Kays.

    The V would just need a lousy 47mpg. 6 liters/ 100km.
    5.5 gallons X 47mpg = 259 miles.

    So if you can get 57mpg average on a epic tour. 5 liters / 100km

    5.5 gallons X 57mpg = 314 miles. 505 Kays.

    54 miles or 87 Kays.

    That is a big saftey net for a MC with more beans and same weight.
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    Which brings to packing gear.

    1. Higher pipe restricts crap you can strap on the side. But frunk helps out.
    2. Must place gear on rear seat to allow quick assess to gas tank. Some have a good system they have created.


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    NC is better commuter.
    V is the better econo sport touring.

    Will give Honda props for lower center of gravity and great torque, and 21 liter frunk on a epic tour.
    750 engine is even heavier. So they went more street than forest road.
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    Would go with more commanding views. More beans. More range. More up right ergos. More wind protection. Cargo bags port and starboard that the V has.
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  19. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice MC_Rider

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    Looks like you ordered a V!

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  20. inroads

    inroads Go West old man

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    I too have the FZ-09 and Vstrom.I had the Versys but the Vstrom beat it everywhere except for quick agile handling and looks of the Versys.
    Now if the Versys had the FZ-07 motor....Wow!
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