2016 DAKAR "Cliffnotes" (lifeboat)

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  1. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    I think it is as you say... private tracts of rural land. Denser population areas and the difficulty to find tracts of land large and suitable enough to conduct stages that are not riddled with DZ'z, FZ'z and punctuated by nutralized zones (connection sectors on the special stages - commonly public roads).

    Argentina has a large beef cattle industry and agriculture to consider.

    The first Dakar in Sth America in 2009, I (IIRC?) they had one stage which travelled south of Buenes Aires.
    The dense bush and vegetation, combined with the fesh fesh (deep dust) made the majority of the stage for the later bikes, most of the autos and all of the trucks, like convoying at pace, down a dusty vegetated tunnel... unable to push forward through the pall of dust.
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    I would think one reason is that Patagonia is too far away from the other countries that host the Dakar (Bolivia, Chile and Peru). True, it is beside Chile but in the south there is no Atacama.
    What I don´t know is why they did not go to Mendoza (Dunas de Nihuil) if they wanted sand.
    Let´s see what they arrange for next year.
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    There where only 6 Malle moto classement warmup classement riders
    And 5 after stage 13 classement

    and manuael was second

    1 VAN DEN GOORBERGH JURGEN (NLD) KTM 450 RALLY REPLICA

    2 LUCCHESE MANUEL (ITA) YAMAHA WR450F RALLY

    3 DIOCLEZIANO TOIA (ITA) KTM 450 RALLY

    4 RIEZEBOS JASPER (NLD) wooden shoes KTM 450 RALLY REPLICA

    5 BERDYSZ MACIEJ (POL) KTM 450 RR
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    Jurgen :clap:clap:clap:clap
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    The last parc ferme motos.
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    Well, that's it for another year. All done and dusted, and the various arguments will start.
    Just playing devil's advocate for a moment... Everyone is having a dig at Honda's seeming inability to win one, but didn't their two lead riders go out because they fell (several times)and not actually through bike failure. Can't really blame Honda for that. A bit simplistic maybe, but just a thought.
    It sure was a different race this year. I didn't make the finish every day but caught up soon enough.
    Huge congratulations to Toby Price. I really think it's taken this win for everyone outside of Aus. to realise just how good this bloke is.
    Many thanks to everyone that's contributed to the f5ire hose. The accumulated knowledge, the insights, and the sheer dedication of blokes like Mischa make this the best Dakar resource anywhere. If only the ASO ran their ship as well as this one...
    See y'all next year when we win again:D
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    So does Toby get issued with the Alien status Bandana for next year ?
    Is this what we will see in post stage interviews in forthcoming years ?

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    Both in their 5th attempt. As you say though, different times, different terrain and for sure this year was a completely different Dakar altogether.
    @Myway , do we know how many miles in total the bikes did? It would be nice to compare this to the previous year.

    Cyril:

    2015 : 34ème
    2014 : 4ème (moto)
    2013 : vainqueur (moto)
    2012 : vainqueur (moto)
    2011 : 2ème (moto)
    2010 : vainqueur (moto)
    2009 : 2ème (moto)
    2007 : vainqueur (moto)
    2006 : 2ème (moto)
    2005 : vainqueur (moto)
    2004 : 3ème (moto)
    2003 : 2ème (moto)
    2001 : 13ème (moto)
    2000 : 16ème (moto)



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    2014 : vainqueur (2 victoires d’étape)
    2012 : 2ème
    2011 : vainqueur
    2010 : 15ème
    2009 : vainqueur
    2007 : abandon étape 12
    2006 : vainqueur
    2005 : 2ème
    2004 : abandon
    2003 : 11ème
    2002 : abandon
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    THAT :y0! is just TOO F5-ing COOL!!! :clap:clap:clap
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    I am glad!! Another Dakar in the pocket!! What a great team the Himoinsa TEAM 5 Pilots, we're finished, it's not something easy to get this! I want to thank all the team that has been working side by side with us, mechanical and assistance that they have worked very hard! Would like to congratulate my fellow Gerard Farrés Iván Cervantes Antonio Gimeno for the big race that have done! And to my super partner Dani Oliveras21 to thank him for this dakar which has made it to my side, I've learned a lot with him, and that great person!!! And thank you to all my friends that I have been pushed from home!!!
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    The Chasing Dakar Team helped a heap of riders during the Rallye, but the highlight was when we kept Laia Sanz's bike going after she lost her gear lever. ‪#‎Dakar2016‬

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