2016 DAKAR "Cliffnotes" (lifeboat)

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    2016 DAKAR: PEUGEOT ON TOP OF THE WORLD WITH "PETER" AS PRICE OPENS HIS ACCOUNT

    218 vehicles (84 motorcycles, 23 quads, 67 cars and 44 trucks) managed to finish the 2016 edition of the Dakar, which saw Stéphane Peterhansel claim his sixth win in the car category after another six in the motorcycle race for a grand total of twelve. Mister Dakar, the leader of the Peugeot dream team that dominated the race with nine stage wins out of twelve, expanded his palmarès with a symbolic victory that restored the Lion brand to its former glory 26 years after Ari Vatanen's last win at the wheel of a 405. Nasser Al-Attiyah (Mini) and Giniel de Villiers (Toyota Hilux) completed the podium. Toby Price posted a flawless performance in his second Dakar participation to win the motorcycle category and become the first Dakar champion from Australia. This edition was also a watershed for the category, with five rookies in the final top 10. Meanwhile, the quad race was a classic comeback story, with the two Patronelli Bros. running the show and Marcos at the forefront. 2012 champion Gerard de Rooy claimed his second Dakar win in the truck category.

    Cars: "Peter" rolls a double six!Whatever Jean de la Fontaine may say, lions can also become hares and win long-distance races. In his defence, the 17th-century fabulist could not have foreseen the ups-and-downs of the Dakar or the impact of the dunes of Fiambalá on the race, let alone the performances of the Peugeot 2008 DKR after a lacklustre 2015 edition or Stéphane Peterhansel's supreme dominance. All these factors helped decide the outcome of the 38th edition, which was marked by the ascendancy of the Peugeot buggies, first arrogant, then uncertain, and finally triumphant thanks to the talent of their leader, who won his 12th Dakar! Halfway through the race, the dream team was in the lead with a trident headed by Sébastien Loeb, who eventually floundered on the dunes and the ríos, while Carlos Sainz pushed his car too hard for it to survive the journey to Rosario. In two days, the three-man act gave way to a one-man show with the climax in the stage to La Rioja, in the heart of the dunes of Fiambalá: "Mister Dakar" finished an hour ahead of the competition and then played it safe all the way to Rosario, escorted by luxury guardian angels Loeb and Despres.
    "Peter" never really faced any competition, with Nasser Al-Attiyah acknowledging he was merely playing the antagonist's role in someone else's play. However, the defending champion got stronger and more aggressive in the second week, capping his trek through Argentina and Bolivia with two stage wins and a silver medal that seemed a pie in the sky when he left Salta after the rest day. Behind the Qatari, Giniel de Villiers gave another master class in consistency to claim his fifth podium spot in thirteen starts. The Toyota was unable to threaten the Peugeot any more than the Mini, but four Hilux cars finished in the top 10 thanks to the solid performances of Leeroy Poulter (fifth) and Vladimir Vasilyev (eighth). However, Mini dominated the top 10, where Nasser Al-Attiyah was closely followed by top rookie Mikko Hirvonen (fifth), Nani Roma (seventh) and another rising star making his debut, Harry Hunt (tenth).
    Motorcycles: Price leads a whole new generationNot even Stéphane Peterhansel, Marc Coma and Cyril Despres, the most decorated competitors in the history of the Dakar, managed to do what Toby Price did this year —winning the most prestigious rally raid in the world in his second participation. "It's an amazing record", blurted the KTM rider at the finish in Rosario. "To be the first Australian to win the Dakar in all divisions is crazy." Price built his success on a surprising degree of maturity. The 28-year-old lad read the two weeks of racing like an open book. "I pushed the days I needed to push and I looked after the bike the most in the marathon stages", he explains. Toby Price made no mistakes in this department. The Australian made the most of a reliable KTM that won its fifteenth Dakar in a row, skilfully avoiding the pitfalls that swallowed his main rivals and seizing the lead just after the rest day. Joan Barreda and Paulo Gonçalves, both pretenders to the crown, failed to reach the finish. The Spaniard was hit by a mechanical near Uyuni, while the Portuguese rider saw his hopes go up in smoke in Fiambalá, also due to engine troubles. Bolivia was also the graveyard of Ruben Faria and Matthias Walkner's podium ambitions. The Portuguese suffered a broken hand and the Austrian a broken femur. Slovak Štefan Svitko and Chilean Pablo Quintanilla had a better Dakar and escorted Toby Price on the final podium.
    The 38th Dakar also consecrated a new generation of riders who made their debut this year. Argentinian Kevin Benavides was the South American revelation and finished fourth overall after winning the third stage. Antoine Méo fought Kevin Benavides and Pablo Quintanilla for a podium place for most of the race. However, a heavy fall on the day before the finish in Rosario pushed the five-time enduro world champion down to seventh place overall. The two-time winner of the Enduropale du Touquet, Adrien Van Beveren, also rode strongly and overtook Méo for sixth place in the closing stage. American Ricky Brabec, who flew the flag in the general classification for Honda, and Spaniard Armand Monleón rounded off the top 10.
    Quads: Marcos Patronelli keeps it in the familyThe Patronelli Bros. quickly dispelled any doubts on their ability to stage a victorious comeback to the Dakar. Alejandro and Marcos were in the mix from the start, but they also benefited from the other favourites' bad luck. After last year's winner, Rafał Sonik, was forced out of the race by mechanical problems, it was the turn of his predecessor Ignacio Casale to go home with two stages… and a broken collarbone. The pace set by the Patronelli Bros. quickly cleared up any doubts except which of the two would take the trophy in Rosario. The younger brother, Marcos, eventually outgunned Alejandro and overtook him both in the general classification (by just 5′23″) and in the number of overall wins (three to two). Meanwhile, their closest rival, South Africa's Brian Baragwanath, finished 1 h 41′ back.
    Trucks: Gerard de Rooy and Iveco reign supremeThis time round, the boot was on the other foot for Kamaz. The blue trucks came to Buenos Aires with the defending champion, Ayrat Mardeev, as well as last year's number 2 (Eduard Nikolaev) and number 3 (Andrey Karginov), but they will leave Rosario with quite an empty bag (three stages for Nikolaev and zero days in the lead). Their inspired and competitive rivals at Iveco and Man put paid to their chances. After 2012, this was the second South American edition to feature just one Kamaz on the podium (Mardeev). At least back then they could say they were bang in the middle of the post-Chagin transition. With the Kamaz trucks found lacking, Gerard de Rooy moved into the lead in stage 8 and never looked back. It is his second win, after the one he took in 2012, as destiny would have it. The heir, De Rooy, finished with a comfortable margin and three stage wins under his belt. The race was energised by an old acquaintance, cousin Hans Stacey (Man), who won the 2007 edition and the closing stage this year, as well as a surprising Federico Villagra (Iveco), who finished third in his first participation in the truck category. The constructors' results also reveal a new balance of power in the category: Kamaz only got two trucks in the top 10, compared with Iveco's four.
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    Al-Attiyah could switch teams for Dakar 2017

    Two-time Dakar Rally champion Nasser Al-Attiyah says he is out of contract for next year's edition of the race and is open to offers.
    Having won the Dakar in 2011 and 2015, Al-Attiyah finished runner-up to Stephane Peterhansel in 2016 - pending the outcome of an appeal filed against the Frenchman.

    The Qatari raced for his current team X-raid between 2005 and 2009 before rejoining the squad in 2014 after stints in Volkswagen, Hummer and Demon Jefferies machinery.

    But, with Al-Attiyah scaling back his participation in motorsport due to a focus preparation for the 2016 Olympic Games, he currently does not have a deal in place for next year's Dakar.

    "I am a free man," Al-Attiyah said upon arriving at the finish line of the 2016 Dakar Rally.

    "If someone offers me a good contract, I can go - because I have no contract."

    However, the Qatari clarified that he is not disappointed with the outcome of the rally.

    "The feeling we had before starting the Dakar is that we could be on the podium, but we did not know where. I am happy with second place, especially for the team."
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    Final liaison to the port. Boys stoked for another 200km. Not.

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    David Casteu: "it's magic to be at the arrival"
    " it was a special very dusty, dangerous and no interest at all, tells the pilot ktm after the arrival of the last special. I finished the race clasping the butt, the trail was full of ruts dry, there was a lot of dust, I had a quad in front of me, it was the inferno to double them. I almost fall twice and I said to myself: '' Stop! I'll bring the bike!''. I assured... I finish in the top 20, this is not what I wanted. But this dakar was based on the speed and not on the adventure. It's a format that suit, was never for me. I'm still at the arrival of my 13th Dakar. We must not forget that many of the drivers are at the hospital and that other one dream is to be in my place, we must stay positive. It's magic to be on the dakar and it is even more magical to be at the arrival "
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    The Sth American dakar exists because Africa stopped being an option. Australia/Russia etc may become an option for the same reason.

    Maybe the issue for Oz is also that the aso needs a country or countries that they can enforce their rules on. Eg, baja 1000, no way could it be held in the USA (liability). In Australia they would have to conform to our rules. Hence it becomes really complicated for them to organise. The Aso is a little like napster, we don't share music, we provide a platform to share it. Aso, we organise the rally, once your off our radar, your on your own, eg, you could get dropped in town somewhere by the aso recovery crew but once there its your job to get back to the port to ship your rig home. Plenty of stories of people making there own way home, without org support. Don't think governments in Oz or the USA would wear that one. A thought anyhow.
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    Super pleased to see our choice of truck racer, Albert Llovera , completed another ‪#‎Dakar2016‬ finishing in a brilliant 35th. The paraplegic rally driver has hand controls on his Tatra truck and is a true inspiration to us here at Race2Recovery ‪#‎Beyondinjury‬

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    Just want to say thanks to the F5 crew for this years coverage and commentary. thanks y'all
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    That begs the question - what happens now with all the gear? Do the Dakar organizers take on the task of shipping it all back to the original port of departure, and then the teams take on the task of shipping it to their locations? How much stuff goes "missing" now that the race is over?
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    Sunday January 17th :(

    Having a hard time disengaging. The folks that persevere *to* *and* *through* this race impress the heck out of me. I really like all the human stories, from the pointy, high-speed tactical side to the dirty, slogging through the night Corky side.

    The Google sheet charts have been updated one last time, looks like Mischa is incorporating this functionality so this will probably be the last time I do it :)

    Other than Blythe's few "oh sh*ts" and Gittere's withdrawal, our US guys ran a very consistent and continually improving race.
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    The factory team charts are even more chaotic.

    Still can't believe somebody stole Duclos' helmet.... :(
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    now that the race is run, and we got the Aussies engaged, just tell them what you think about Stoner racing in the Dakar would be like, troy.

    That should keep this thread going until next year. :D
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    South American stories or Africa? ASO was fantastic with me in SA. After plucking me out of the dunes in the middle of the night and taking me to the bivouac they flew me with their crew to the next day's bivouac. Their travel department helped me make arrangements to fly where ever I wanted. They drove me to the airport. My motorcycle was picked up in the dunes by helicopter, then transported by truck to the port in Lima. Couldn't of asked for more support from the ASO.
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    Teams are responsible for getting their stuff to the port. Motos that are picked up by the ASO sweep truck are dropped off at the port. Everything is shipped back to Le Havre port in France by ASO.

    If a team is shipping their stuff directly to their country then it is on them.
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    2016 DAKAR f5irehose - the figures. :-)

    Well f5olks, that's the f5irehose done and dusted for this DAKAR...

    Like the real DAKAR our cyber version had its share of ups and downs this year; early morning starts before dawn, late night finishes just in front of the sweeper truck, there were timing glitches, the usual assortment of laugh's, and the odd tiff... but all in all awesome content and participation from a cast of 1000's. The pace was not as hectic perhaps as some years ago, but many have commented that the quality of information this year was exceptional; The occurence of 205's was the lowest I've ever witnessed, and after we all settled in to the f5low, there was not much "waypoint stamp static" and it went like a dance in cyber f5esh f5esh. :D

    There were tradesmans efforts aplenty from the f5'ers - too many to mention. While some battled on to keep up with the f5lowing paceof the mothership , others sailed along effortlessly taking it in their stride... for those that started to go under - there was always the lifeboat - cliffnotes. We had DNS's ,DNF's delays at the DSS, missing WP's, non-existent CP's and more than our fair share of relocates ASSes... :rofl

    So, how did it finish up...?

    This year we had the 2016 off5icial pre-event DAKAR preparation thread - which included the ARRIVAL, SCRUTINEERING and START PODIUM/PROLOGUE chat on LEG 0 to the Rosario Bivouac; which had 1,491 posts and recieved 90,388 views.

    The 2016 DAKAR f5irehose - LEG 1 to the finish podium after Stage 13 had 8,923 posts and recieved 465,930 views.

    The combination of these two put this years F5 virtual DAKAR in pos.7 on the ADVRider.com RACING FORUM all time traffic "hit list"; :deal

    2012 f5irehose 14,634 posts / 1,372 948 views (well in excess of 1,000 posts per day)
    2013 f5irehose 18,421 posts / 1,314 894 views
    2011 f5irehose 12,451 posts / 1,078 302 views (first time in excess of one million views)
    2015 f5irehose 11,291 posts / 959 797 views
    2014 f5irehose 12,230 posts / 954 547 views
    2010 f5irehose 7,138 posts / 623 248 views
    2016 f5irehose 10,414 posts / 556 318 views


    There are no thread themes on ADVRider RACING forum that draw this much attention.

    Cliffnotes ran at 2,914 copied posts / 51 188 views (or a bout a third of the posts from the f5irehose and less than 10% of the viewers.

    That means on ADVRider RACING FORUM, only DAKAR related threads hold spots in the top 10 all time traffic list.

    The others are;

    "The Bivouac" general rally news thread (since Dec' 2009) 7201 posts / 903 009 views
    Neduro did DAKAR (from 2011 Dakar rally) 5265 posts / 764 760 views

    The only threads that attain anything like this volume are the annual yooperbikemike MOTO GP threads which generally run for somewhere around 4,000 to 5,500 pages - and @ 500,000 + views over an entire season.

    DAKAR is still the single biggest drawcard for ADVRider for sure.



    The 2016 F5/ASO DAKAR HEAD Trophies go to: :deal

    Thanks to Myway for another f5antastic work load this year keeping all the schedules, TV guides, maps and profiles... in fact every resource that there was this year on the f5 was in some way thanks to his efforts. :clap:clap:clap
    To Mischa (misc), for the exceptional resource and timekeeping tool that is trackingdakar.nl factory team effort!:bow:bow:bow
    Thank's to Kaia for the help in the engine room this year... f5otos thread is a masterwork of colour and action.
    Thank's to Yardracer for such a thorough and conscientious job on the dakar.com and facebook updates, as well as general f5 vibe. :D:D:D

    As always plenty of great banter and colour commentary from the regulars on the F5 crew, no one mentioned - none forgotten... and also great to see a bunch of new faces from Europe, South America, the UK, of course the USA, even a rise in the participation of the Aussies (funny bout that) and some new faces from our inmates in the east and Asian countries. Thank you all for being a part of the F5 DAKAR experience.

    Now the flow that was the 2016 f5irehose has slowed after the festivities - to a dribble. Soon it will be just drips and drops. We will leave the three 2016 DAKAR stickies at the top of the masthead until the end of January, so that f5olks can go back and relive the nightmares and memories of the Photo's, flipp back through the f5irehose, or find something specific of interest on cliffnotes.

    Finall I would like to thank all that participated on the ADVRider.com DAKAR f5irehose this year - it is what "we" all made it... :rofl(Thank's Toby).

    Take care, see you all in the bivouac... :wave

    Troy. :thumbup
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    How much did the year of the "likes" influence the views.

    How many are there given, is there a classement, I believe, "Our" Greek friend 640 Armageddon found 'the liker" the most.

    Misc tracker is more and more integrated in our behaviour, less F5, is less new views.
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    Before starting the Dakar Rally I'd have signed the top 15, but after seeing how the Dakar has been, I could have been higher up. Next year I'll try it again!

    Step 13: Mission accomplished: Laia Sanz finished in the top 15 his sixth Dakar
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    The last three days had to drive with a sore throat and fever with a sprained collarbone after a fall, but took heart of grace and managed to finish the rally in a heroic fifteenth position.Despite past the first half of the race with options to finish in the top ten, a reclassification by the organization, first, a technical problem then you have prevented overcome ninth achieved in 2015."Before we started he had signed a result like this but after how it went all think it could be later."
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    Laia 1Laia Sanz has returned to finish the Dakar Rally and now they're six straight! Or what is the same, a hundred percent of shares finished a statistical unusual in the world's toughest rally. The pilot KH-7 and the KTM Rally Factory Team has once again demonstrated that the impediments have to be huge to deprive it of achieving the goal. This time, even a sore throat and collarbone sprain have been avoided to climb the podium in Rosario as best woman in motorcycle-for time- sixth and 15th overall position, after climbing a spot in the final stage, held this Saturday.
    It was not easy to Dakar and Laia Sanz already predicted before starting. "Finishing in the top 15 is my goal," he said again and again to those who claimed a podium or top five, excessive challenge in an edition that had a list of "20 or 25 pilots, some of them champions The world of enduro or motocross, with chances to win stages, "he says. Despite that, and the route of the Dakar 2016 he was unfavorable, with very fast tracks, very little sand and almost no navigational difficulties, Laia showed he could be among the best.
    "The standard this year has been brutal, but mainly because it was a very fast race. The days that there were Navigation saw a Dakar different and more stages and would have changed things much. That makes me optimistic because I know I can be above "explains Corbera de Llobregat.
    Laia started the rally with a very solid pace, keeping the type, without wasting time in order to get to the complicated stages located in the top fifteen and near the tenth: "fast I was more than I thought I would go the rest of riders ahead, while maintaining a margin. I did not want any setbacks that annoy my chances of going into the second week.
    "The possibilities of improving to ninth place achieved last year-the best result for a woman in the history of the Dakar-vanished within three days of misfortune. Everything is complicated in the ninth stage, when a reclassification by the organization, after stopping a part of the tour, made the KH-7 happened to be 13 minutes from tenth to slip to 50 minutes. "The organization had to make a decision and he made was unfair to me and conditioned my career, but I do not think about it.
    "The worst would come the next day, in the tenth day of competition, in the desert of Faimbalá. It had to be one of the steps conducive to Laia Sanz, sand and lots of navigation, but a problem with the water in the radiator of his bike made him lose more than half an hour about the head of the race. "The previous day with the reclassification caused me to delayed and you were the tracks very wrong with the passage of five trucks and the ten cars that began interspersed with the first ten bikes. There I had a fall down a boulder that was hidden under sand. All this influenced and made the bike is warm, remember that temperatures were extreme. I ran out of water in the radiator and had to roll at low speed and replenishing water. I ended up dead by wear and that I paid the physically next day. Instead the KTM 450 Rally proved to be very reliable. The engine continued as usual, "he recalls.
    Not end there setbacks of the 17-time world champion. At the 11th stage, after the effort of Fiambala, he took angina and was forced to fly with fever and dizziness. That's when he suffered a heavy crash caused a torn ligament (acromioclavicular sprain) grade two on the right collarbone. Laia Sanz drew strength from where there were none and not only managed to finish the race, demonstrating his enormous will and endurance, but did well in fifteenth position. A result that, being good does not reflect the potential of the best motorcycle racer of all time.
    "Before we started he had signed a result like this but after how it went all think it could be later. In the Dakar can not always get everything right. It's a very long race. It's been around but still I've been well sorted and with good feelings. I am happy because complete six six Dakar is not easy. Now, to rest and then think about what you need to improve and start thinking about preparing the next. "
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    On the subject of alternate locations to run Dakar, I have a different perspective from some here. I think it would be a big challenge, but not impossible to run Dakar in North America.

    As I'm finding while organizing Sonora Rally, the expected and unexpected challenges can be overcome. Darren and I are having success opening up new areas for off-road racing in Mexico, including huge areas where we can run off-piste. Our plan from the beginning was to grow Sonora Rally into a 5 day or longer event, expanding south from the USA boarder one rally stage at a time, one year at a time. This plan is working, and that's with just two guys from California and almost zero budget. With a larger organization, and a budget to support it, I don't see why a rally could not be created that spanned the length of Mexico (similar in size to Argentina). Look at the Rally Playero "Coast-to-Coast" event, which also crossed "new" terrain for off-road racing in central Mexico. Mexico has the huge and varied desert terrain that is well suited for Dakar.

    As for the USA, it's already proven, year after year, that off-road racing is possible, despite the challenges of liability, BLM, and other things. Look at the annual Vegas-to-Reno race, which is roughly equivalent to two good stages of Dakar. Add to that some of the other areas BITD races in the States. Then add private land where off-piste is possible, and a few other ideas I have for huge regions where BLM has no jurisdiction, and you have the possibility of several stages in the USA.

    Then, if you're willing to have a few more WRC stages (which I'm not a fan of), you can add another 2000km crossing Central America.

    It's all a matter of being smart and putting in a lot of hard work to make a dream become reality. That Dakar 2017 map I created a while back was done somewhat as a joke. But all good jokes have a sliver of truth running through them. A different version of that map was already in my head before I decided to twist it into a joke.

    BTW, we got a couple of emails from ASO the last few weeks! :thumb
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    Feels good to be back!
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