2016 DAKAR "Cliffnotes" (lifeboat)

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  1. 640 Armageddon

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    HRC seems to enjoy the party.
    And then you have these guys from Barth Racing. :lol2

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  2. kaia

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    The Dakar Rally 2016 marks a special milestone for the newly formed Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory Racing Team who contest what is effectively the most important and gruelling offroad competitions in the annual motorsports calendar.

    Riding the Husqvarna FR 450 Rally machine in the factory team colours will be Dakar veterans Pablo Quintanilla of Chile and Portugal’s Ruben Faria, with Frenchman and Frenchman Pela Renet contesting his first edition.

    Quintanilla, at Christmas 2015 named “Best Rider of the Year” by the specialist media in Chile will start with the #4 bike after an excellent ride in the 2015 edition that saw him narrowly miss the podium. In fact, in the absence of the #1 plate of the now retired Marc Coma, who won his fifth Dakar Rally last January, Quintanilla will be the third rider out. Quintanilla is contesting his fourth Dakar Rally and he believes the real test of endurance will come when the competition enters Bolivia.

    Pablo Quintanilla: “I am very calm and happy with the Husqvarna factory bike because it’s reliable, very fast and very tough for this sport. This time we are not riding in Chile so there is no open desert, but the difficult navigation in Fiambalá, Belén and San Juan, plus the altitude and rainfall in Bolivia will make it difficult for everybody.”

    Starting with #8 is Faria, a Dakar regular since 2006, and who delivered his best performance in 2013 when he finished second overall. Faria has had three top ten finishes in the Dakar and is very capable of a strong finish.

    As the most Dakar-experienced of the Husqvarna trio, Faria said the most important aspects for him are the physical effort involved, and also the skill in navigation. He is also very pleased to be riding the Husqvarna machine.

    Ruben Faria: “The Husky is amazing! The engineering team has done a fantastic job on the chassis and other details. This bike is the result of unbelievable teamwork and I am proud to be part of that. Training and riding with my teammates is also fantastic because we develop the bike together and each one of us gives important feedback to the team after riding in the same conditions.”
    Newcomer to the rally team but not to the Husqvarna brand is French rider Pela Renet, who comes with a wealth of experience in MX and enduro racing and is a proven E2 World Champion. A shoulder injury mid season denied him the E2 title in 2015, but Renet is fit and well and first rode the FR 450 Rally in the Morocco Rally in October. He says he has always had a goal of competing in the Dakar Rally, and when the opportunity came up to ride for Husqvarna, it was an offer he couldn’t refuse.

    Pela Renet: “For the last 2-3 years I’ve been thinking about finishing off my racing career in rally raid. After my really good season in 2014 I began to discuss with Husqvarna if they had any plans to go into rally and now I’m here! My preparation was not the best one because of my injuries but I’ve worked a lot over the last weeks to be ready for January 2. The preparation with the other riders was very good. The atmosphere is great, the team is really professional and my bike is amazing. I’m simply in the best position to learn and to progress in rally raid.”

    Faria also had some words of advice for the team’s rookie Renet, saying: “Pela Renet is a very good and fast rider, but in the Dakar you need experience. I think I can help him to start to get that experience. My advice to him is to try to improve his riding and his navigation day by day, but always stay in his comfort zone. If he is able to do that then he will get a good final result.”

    In addition to the three official factory riders, Husqvarna are also supporting young Italian talent Jacopo Cerutti, who won his place in the Dakar Rally after an excellent sixth place result in the 2015 Sardegna Rally Race, one of the official Dakar Challenge events. Cerutti, who also comes into rally raid from enduro sport, will ride under the banner of the HT Husqvarna Team. He has a modest goal to finish the rally and, as he says ‘not in the last place’.

    The 2016 edition of the Dakar Rally begins with the prologue in Buenos Aires on January 2, 2016. Riders travel west through Argentina then follow the spine of the Andes mountains north into Bolivia. They then travel directly south crisscrossing the mountains until they reach San Juan in Argentina, where they turn east to eventually finish in Rosario. Over the thirteen stages they will travel in excess of 9,000 km and be confronted with very difficult conditions that will test their navigation skills, as well as their riding. They will also need absolute peak physical fitness and enormous mental strength. The one rest day is on January 10 in Salta. Because of anticipated disruptive conditions caused by the El Niño weather phenomenon, Chile and Peru were forced to withdraw from the program for this edition.

    Program of the 2016 Dakar:
    31/12 and 01/01: Administrative and technical checks
    02/01: Start podium in Buenos Aires / Prologue
    03/01: Buenos Aires - Villa Carlos Paz
    04/01: Villa Carlos Paz - Termas de Río Hondo
    05/01: Termas de Río Hondo - Jujuy
    06/01: Jujuy - Jujuy
    07/01: Jujuy - Uyuni
    08/01: Uyuni - Uyuni
    09/01: Uyuni - Salta
    10/01: Rest day in Salta
    11/01: Salta - Belén
    12/01: Belén - Belén
    13/01: Belén - La Rioja
    14/01: La Rioja - San Juan
    15/01: San Juan - Villa Carlos Paz
    16/01: Villa Carlos Paz - Rosario

    Total Liaison: 4,543 km (2,822 miles)
    Total: est. 9,000 km (5,592 miles)

    (video posted yesterday, sorry if it's a 205)
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  3. Balkan Boy

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    Take note of this fella:
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    Pierre-Alexandre (Pela) Renet

    He's smart and devilishly fast rider.
    If there's a stage similar to EWC and with simpler navigation, he can be a serious contender.

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    Btw,
    How do you extract photos from Instagram?
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    I'm interested to see what the Husky team strategy is and if there is any coordination with KTM. With only three riders, two experienced and a noob, do they have a hierarchy with Pablo and Ruben or will Ruben finally get to run free of WC duties? Will Pela sacrifice parts for a top KTM rider in need? Just a little more drama that makes this Dakar exciting.
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    This one image tells me Honda are here until they boss this event!
    Only I can't see KTM allowing them even a sniff!
    Something has to give!?!?!

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    Between the Orange/blue factory KTMs and White/yellow factory Huskys, I'd say KTM was well represented this year against the HRC force. I heard that those KTM factory 450's are pushing 80+ ponies, amazing they can hold up so long.

    Anybody know what the HRC 450's are putting out power-wise?
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  12. troy safari carpente

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    Hello everyone... :wave

    I hope the holiday season is treating you all well... and we are all looking forward to the countdown to 2016-:happay

    In BA we can see now that most teams/participants have arrived, unloaded and all is in preparation for the administrative and technical checks starting today.

    Likewise in the cyber world of f5 DAKAR, we have a dedicated group of individuals who are busy getting their ducks in a row, in readiness for the start of the rally proper on January 3rd. In the meantime the "cliffnotes" thread has been primed and stickied - with the first 30 posts from the Buenos Aires arrival and speculation posted up - to get the ball rolling. In the meantime our "pre-DAKAR off5icial thread" is ticking over with all the latest, for those that want to brush up on their f5irehose skills.

    A big thanks to some of our f5 awesome alien inmates; myway (for his awesome schudule and f5 resource thead - stickied at top of the RACING board with the other DAKAR essentials), to Hogwild for his awesome cyber maping skills and information... it's almost like being there when you have such detailed terrain and route analysis - kudos :bow.

    Thank's to Kaia; who as usual jumps in as a Dakar mod, to help with the photo f5irehose and this year kindly agreed to help pull duty on the "cliffnote" updates from the main f5irehose coverage thread.

    A big shout out to Mischa for his tireless work on the timing/tracker data base... we've said it before, I will say it again... one of THE absolute essential resources for the F5 fans. :bow

    Please support misc's great contribution to the cause when you can, and as soon as he has the server up and running the links will be put up on the f5irehose into page and on the ADV f5 resources index thread. :rayof

    Nice to see that everyone is bedding in for the rally now... so without further ado... here is; :deal

    TSC's pre-emptive F5 DAKAR 2016 speculation post:

    (a bit shorter than most years, but between x-mas/new year and the pre-F5 frenzy - It is, what it is :D)

    AUTO: The photo of the factory PEUGEOT team cars in the pre-rally workbay, is impressive. What a difference 12 months makes. This year with a totally re-developed AND tested vehicle that IS up to the task. (They ditched the turd that they hastily dreamed up last year) and now have a car that is capable of running at the front, without posing a handling nightmare to the poor beggar behind the wheel. I guess (as always) longterm reliability is still somewhat of a questionmark on a vehicle with only one competition event on the platform... but the test program in Marocco was as comprehensive as any factory team ever, so team PUG is 400% in front of where they were this time a year ago.

    Four top class drivers in these new weapons... Two and a half of them with extensive DAKAR credential... the other one and a half have resumes that are unequalled in their respective fields (Despres most DAKAR moto titles ever Loeb - most WRC world titles ever)... truly Peugeot earns the title of "the Ream Team".

    Biggest question for mine, is how Loeb will do...

    If only Peugeot had paired him with an experience DAKAR navigator (even the greatest drivers need a skilled "off piste navigator to win at DAKAR), then I believe Loeb is the best chance ever that a "rookie" could win at DAKAR in the modern day auto category.

    But with Daniel Elena (his regular WRC pace note recital partner) I don't think that with only two cross country rallies under his belt, will provide the "off piste" decision making the pair need to win... not against the MINI armada, and with their own Peugeot team mates Peterhansel/Cottret being so experience.

    Al Attiyah and the X-Raid team have the results, numbers and expeience on the board... Peterhansel in the PUG, with Despres as waterboy, while Sainz can act as the hare to force the pace up front... will be the big question if they can turn the tables on thr MINI armada.

    I think the Toyota team will float in the wings with two, maybe three cars regularly in the top dozen spots each stage.

    Moto's: The HRC effort looks as formidable as ever - for this - the HONDA marques fourth year back at the DAKAR since their hiatus. Noticeably, a little less pre-DAKAR "media hype" than in past (all the PR people have been flat out marketing the newly released Africa Twin :lol3)... hopefully the energy has gone into the rally effort.

    Over at RedBull KTM, it seems to be the same old methodical, well oiled war machine. Dissappointing that the only chink in the armour - Sam Sunderlands injury and subsequent withdrawal after the accident at merzouga rally - means that the red bull factory squad loses one of it's stars... I was looking forward to see Sam, Toby, Jordi and Mathias working together.

    I would like to see Viladom's/Price/Waulkner work together in week one (off piste navigation, position themselves in the overall top ten early on days 1 thru 4) and put one of them in a position after the rest day to control the pace and pressure to take the win (I think ideally Toby has the outright speed to do so, Jordi posses the experience and skills to make it happen).

    Over at HRC I think that Speedy Goncalves has the best chance to pick up a podium spot for HRC... whether Barreda has tempered his fastest man to the point of incident/impact approach - remains to be seen. But despite the size of the red teams gold bag... they really on have these two "drivers"... the other red bikes are definately just a supporting role.

    In contrast the Mattighofen mob have a whole other set of Rockstar/Husqvarna clubs, to whack the opposition with... and as Barrier pointed out, with riders like Ruben and Quint, they will make the presence felt in the top dozen... Pela is their to learn... but easily has the riding skills of a top 15 racer as well.

    Roll on New Year... f5 DAKAR is in full effect! :clap:clap:clap
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  13. mrwwwhite

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    F$^#&$% hell... you mean this part???

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    This cannot be... it's insane...
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    Yeap. Four bikes without that part....
    Looking for options to fly in gear with a person there. If you;d ask me it would be cheaper and safer for the team to do that than change at this point with such a pressure all the gear on the bikes. Never mind the switch work that one has to do...
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  15. Balkan Boy

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    Where did this happen?
    In La Harve? On the boat?
    Then it must be a sabotage… Who would want a customized piece of equipment?
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    The information is that the bikes were missing the gear when the team picked up the bikes. Now if it happened in Argentina or in the boat that is a question and ASO is not very helpfull in this unless your colors are Orange or Red.
    It's really weird, it has happened in the past with other pieces of equipment which the locals think they can sell.
    Right now this is a nightmare for a mechanic.... :baldy
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  17. troy safari carpente

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    Old Jack Africa DAKAR proverb...

    "If it's not nailed down, or has someone keeping an eye on it 24/seven... it will go missing!" :nod

    Dimi, the Suzuki teams dilemma is just the latest (over last four or five years) incident of things that have been stolen during transit.

    A real last minute spanner in the works no doubt... build a bike over 6 months... then significant change to the navigation equipment the last 24 hours... less than ideal.
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  18. troy safari carpente

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    A great deal of the material sent with the Official ASO ship from LeHavre to Buenos Aires is NOT in sealed containers... majority of the vehicles are under deck cargo (car ferry style).
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